9-1-10: Arizona Cardinals Bird Droppings
by JoeCB1991 on Sep 1, 2010 10:40 AM MDT
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PrintWell.... it sounds like this massive cluster **** is almost over, except the decision that is being made (in my opinion) is the wrong one. After spending the entire offseason hearing how he is the guy, and that the team believes in him, and that Coach Whiz is happy with what he has done, the team has given up on him after two Preseason games where Coach Whiz admitted that he did not get much help from the O-Line. I thought they should have at least given him a couple weeks in the regular season to see if he could get it done, but that's just how I feel.
So, lets get on to some Links...
NFL Preseason Game Four: Redskins At Cardinals, 7 P.M. AZT - SB Nation Arizona
In the final preseason game, the Washington Redskins will visit the Arizona Cardinals. The Cards will be sporting their new black jerseys and Derek Anderson will again get the start.
Feels like end game for Matt Leinart - NFC West Blog - ESPN
ESPN's Adam Schefter names the Oakland Raiders, Buffalo Bills and New York Giants as teams that have spoken to the Arizona Cardinals about a possible trade for Matt Leinart. I'm not sure whether those teams initiated discussions or simply answered their phones, but an executive for another team told me the Cardinals were calling around, trying to gauge the market for their jilted quarterback. It's all consistent with the broader feeling that Leinart's tenure in Arizona could be nearing an end.
Cardinals QB Derek Anderson picked to start vs. Redskins
Derek Anderson will remain the Cardinals' starting quarterback. And it could last well beyond the team's fourth and final preseason game Thursday night against the visiting Washington Redskins.
NFL Videos: Has Leinart lost locker room?
Michael Lombardi examines whether Matt Leinart is losing support in the locker room -- and from his head coach.
Matt Leinart doesn't want to be a backup quarterback | ProFootballTalk.com
It may not matter whether the Bills have discussed trading for Matt Leinart or not because Leinart doesn't yet realize what stage of his career he's reached.
Three teams have talked about trading for Matt Leinart | ProFootballTalk.com
Trading Matt Leinart won't be easy because of his contract, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that three teams have discussed picking up Leinart: The Bills, Raiders, and Giants. It's unclear whether they've talked to the Cardinals or just have considered the move internally.
Bills say they haven't "discussed" Leinart | ProFootballTalk.com
Earlier today, Adam Schefter of ESPN reported via Twitter (this is where we'd made the crack about it maybe being a hoax, but we're already getting tired of that one) that three teams have talked about trading for Cardinals quarterback Matt Leinart, who finds himself on the block after losing his starting job for the second time since 2008.
Schefter fires back at Bills | ProFootballTalk.com
Earlier today, Adam Schefter of ESPN reported via Twitter that the Bills, Giants, and Raiders have "discussed" trading for Cardinals quarterback Matt Leinart. In the ESPN.com version of the report, Schefter said that the Bills have discussed the subject with the Cardinals. The Bills denied the report via the team's official website, calling Schefter's report "erroneous."
Matt Leinart Situation: Whisenhunt Puts Self In Hot Seat - Desert Dirt - SB Nation Arizona
How can Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt go from praising Matt Leinart's progress as a leader just weeks before camp to dumping the heir apparent just a few weeks later? Whisenhunt has yet to fully explain this decision, which is his right -- unless it blows up in his face.
Toler, McBride Fight On The Corner
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Arizona Cardinals' Matt Leinart on the Trading Block: A Look at All 31 NFL Teams | Bleacher Report
With the news being broken (thank you, Jay Glazer), that Arizona Cardinals quarterback has been demoted and is now on the trading block, there's just one thing left to do. Look at all of the potential options.
Matt Leinart Trade: 5 Teams That Could Use The Former 1st Rounder | Bleacher Report
About a week ago this time, the Matt Leinart era in Arizona began to seem bleak.
Jay Glazer said teams called him about Leinart - Dan Patrick.com
FOX's Jay Glazer joined the show to talk about Matt Leinart trade rumors.
With Cardinals possibly shopping Matt Leinart, QB says he doesn't want to be a backup in NFL - The Huddle: Football News from the NFL - USATODAY.com
Arizona Cardinals QB Matt Leinart told Fox Sports' Jay Glazer that he does not intend to be a backup QB, even as ESPN reported that the Cardinals have discussed a trade for Leinart with three other teams.
azcentral.com blogs - Bruce Cooper Blog - BruceCooper - Leinart, it's just a matter of time now
If that old saying, "where there's smoke there's fire," has any ring of truth to it then the swirling trade rumors regarding Matt Leinart have reached the four alarm level. A number of national media outlets are reporting the Cardinals have reached out to other teams regarding a trade for Leinart.
Coach Whisenhunt Failed To Show Confidence In Matt Leinart - SB Nation Arizona
Cardinals Coach Ken Whisenhunt initially supported Matt Leinart as the starter, but after a few weeks of training camp, has abandoned him. Without Kurt Warner by his side, Leinart isn't the only Cardinals leader who needs to prove himself.
Phoenix Sports Radio Round-Up: Kurt Warner Supports Matt Leinart - Desert Dirt - SB Nation Arizona
Miss the key interviews with your favorite players on local sports radio? Don't worry, we've got you covered. Everyday we'll give you a recap of the key interviews you need to hear from all the stations in Phoenix and beyond.
Derek Anderson will get the call Thursday | ProFootballTalk.com
After questioning his benching publicly on Monday to the media, Matt Leinart went to coach Ken Whisenhunt to talk about it. We don't know what was said in the meeting, but it's not going to rearrange the depth chart. Whisenhunt confirmed to the Scott Van Pelt Show that Derek Anderson will start this Thursday in the team's final exhibition game.
Cardinals name Anderson starter ... for Thursday | National Football Post
Need a little more evidence that the Arizona Cardinals have already made the decision to name Derek Anderson the starting quarterback?
ProFootballWeekly.com - Rating the backup quarterbacks
While bullpens in baseball have taken on added importance with the September stretch drive about to begin, the same applies to NFL relief staffs, considering all the QB drama currently going on with another NFL regular season just around the corner.
Why Wait This Long To Turn On Matt Leinart? | Bleacher Report
After the Arizona Cardinals played their second preseason game, Matt Leinart was benched from his very short lived starting quarterback gig. In his place, they started Derek Anderson, an ex-Cleveland Brown Pro-Bowler, who has a big arm, and trouble making the correct decision.
Matt Leinart Could Be Cut By Arizona Cardinals | Bleacher Report
Is Matt Leinart's spot on the Arizona Cardinals roster ready to be replaced?
Lineup unchanged, so Anderson starts
Coach Ken Whisenhunt was less about Derek-Anderson-is-starting-the-preseason-finale and more about the-lineup-overall-did-well-last-game-so-why-change today, but still, that means Anderson will start the preseason finale, and, you know, we’ll go from there.
Is Matt Leinart done with the Cardinals?
Matt Leinart's days are numbered with the Arizona Cardinals. Why? Because the coaching staff has lost confidence in his ability to lead this team.
NFL Videos: Plays of the preseason: Week 3
Steve Breaston made the top of the list.
Cards make final three moves
The Cardinals have made their final three roster moves today to get down to the mandated 75-man limit, and none are unexpected. Fullback Nehemiah Broughton (knee) was moved to injured reserve, ending his season. Linebacker O’Brien Schofield (knee) was moved to the injured/non-football list, which basically has the same rules as the physically-unable-to-perform list — he must sit the first six games, and then the Cards have until the ninth game to decide to put him on the active roster or move him to IR. Finally, the team waived/injured wide receiver Darren Mougey, who broke his hand last week in practice.
azcentral.com blogs - Kent Somers - KentSomers - Clearning the air
It wasn't surprising that coach Ken Whisenhunt and quarterback Matt Leinart met yesterday to clear the air between them. Monday was a strange day, with Leinart questioning the motive for his demotion as Whisenhunt started his news conference just a few feet away.
Leinart's Arizona days numbered?
Matt Leinart’s days in Arizona may be numbered.
A Practice Run Inside
Cards begin work inside Arizona State's bubble; Anderson starts Thursday
Audio: Discussing Leroy Hill, Matt Leinart - NFC West Blog - ESPN
710ESPN Seattle has posted audio from my conversation with Brock Huard and Mike Salk regarding the Seattle Seahawks' Leroy Hill and the Arizona Cardinals' Matt Leinart.
Anderson starting again, Leinart meets with coach - NFL - SI.com
Derek Anderson will start at quarterback again for Arizona when the Cardinals play Washington on Thursday night in their final preseason game.
Cardinals have started shopping Matt Leinart | ProFootballTalk.com
Matt Leinart's time in Arizona appears to be almost up.
NFC West position counts at 75-man limit - NFC West Blog - ESPN
All four NFC West teams have met the 75-man roster limit after the Arizona Cardinals made moves involving three players Tuesday.
Cardinals QB Derek Anderson picked to start vs. Redskins
Derek Anderson will remain the Cardinals' starting quarterback. And it could last well beyond the team's fourth and final preseason game Thursday night against the visiting Washington Redskins.
Report: Matt Leinart On Trade Block - SB Nation Arizona
According to this report, the Arizona Cardinals have put embattled quarterback Matt Leinart on the trade block.
Deep Posts: Matt Leinart gets snippy about his demotion - Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
Matt Leinart's a little unhappy about being demoted to Arizona Cardinals preseason second-stringer, behind Derek Anderson. And that's a good thing -- you'd want your quarterback to be upset about something like that. What's odd, though, is that Leinart seemed to lob a vague accusation that Ken Whisenhunt made the decisions because of some off-the-field issue, as opposed to on-field performance. Hmmmm.
KTAR.com - Birdbits
The BS Report on ESPN.com While talking about Jake Delhomme losing his team's confidence after a playoff loss to the Cardinals, Michael Lombardi said Matt Leinart is facing a similar issue in Arizona. "Matt Leinart has to go," Lombardi said. "Nobody in Arizona's locker room is confident that he can be the quarterback. So once you've lost the locker room, where are you going? People say 'oh, he can be a backup', for what? Nobody believes that he can play. Larry Fitzgerald doesn't want him on the field when he's in the game because he thinks he's going to get hung out to dry on a deep ball. So, it's very concerning, and I think the fans missed that.
Cardinals' Leinart may be on trading block - NFL - Sporting News
Derek Anderson will start at quarterback in the Arizona Cardinals' final exhibition game. Matt Leinart? He might be on his way out of Phoenix.
Teams in discussions about trading for Matt Leinart, sources say - ESPN
The Buffalo Bills, Oakland Raiders and New York Giants have had discussions about trading for Arizona Cardinals quarterback Matt Leinart, league sources tell ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.
Leinart is not alone in second-chance league | National Football Post
Being given up on can be the best thing that ever happens to an NFL quarterback. It certainly didn’t hurt Drew Brees. Or Kurt Warner. Or Steve Young. Brett Favre was dumped by the Falcons, told he was no longer wanted in Green Bay and given up on by the Jets before having arguably the best season of his career. The league is full of second-chance quarterbacks. Among them are Brady Quinn, Jason Campbell, Donovan McNabb, Marc Bulger, Jake Delhomme, Byron Leftwich and Michael Vick.
Eye-opener: Can Matt Leinart be a starting QB? - Game On!: Covering the Latest Sports News
If you believe the reports, the Arizona Cardinals not only don't want Matt Leinart to start for them, they don't want him around period.
One way or another, Leinart looks to be done in the desert | ProFootballTalk.com
With each passing moment in this 24-hour, Twitter-fueled news cycle, it's becoming more and more clear that quarterback Matt Leinart's career with the Cardinals is ending.
Reports: Leinart trades explored
In news broken by Fox Sports’ Jay Glazer and now being picked up by ESPN, the Cardinals have looked into trading quarterback Matt Leinart. Not surprising, given the events of the past week or so. Not surprising that Glazer knows about it, since he hooked up with Leinart for MMA training and teams can ask him his opinion of Leinart’s work ethic. And Glazer can certainly talk to Leinart, and the reporter said on the "Dan Patrick Show" this morning Leinart wants to be able to start.
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Gergely from Seattle, Wash., writes: Great blog Sando! Even if it were about stats, isn't Matt Leinart's yards per reception of 8.5 too low? Wouldn't it be better if he was closer to 16 of 23 for 161 yards (instead of 121 yards), so that the average completion was going for a first down? Personally, I'd like to see him get the nod, get comfortable and hopefully start taking shots downfield, too. I just see Derek Anderson turning into Jake Delhomme for the Cards.
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To your opening paragraph. This will be a 8 or less win team with “Mr. 2/17” at the helm.
by fansincejakenrob on Sep 1, 2010 10:58 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Leinart earned the starting job...right out.
Reports are that Fitz and others don’t like Leinart. I remember a time when Rice didn’t like Young because the ball came out funny (left handed), makes it difficult for a reciver to catch because it spins in the other direction. I wonder if this has anything to do with Fitz’s attitude? Sure glad the 49ers didn’t trade Young when Rice didn’t like him……The Cards should tell their players to just shut up and do what they are well over paid to do, play football. It is not their decision and not their place to try to influence the coaches for a change to a WAY lesser QB. This is the begining of the end for WHIZ and the Cardinals…….If they trade Leinart, it will just be another Oakland Raiders Team in the NFL…
The receivers dont want to get a season ending injury
It’s obvious to me from watching him underwhelm for the last several years that he looks down his intended receiver and lobs up the ball with his noddle arm, basically painting a bullseye on his intended receiver. That and it’s hard to have a thousand plus year when all your qb will do is check down to the rb or te.
“This is the end for Whis and the Cards” . I don’t know if the vegan diet they are feeding you up there in “The City” is going to your head but at worse this is a rebuilding year, hardly “an end” or a "Raiders team. "
@ joe, I don’t know which powers that be thought it was ok to hand over the reigns to a short sighted whippersnapper but do we really have to listen to you whine and complain through every article? just saying your ratings are going down.
I have seen Anderson stare down receivers a lot too.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Almost forgot
Instead of logging you beaten to death opinion and attaching a bunch of links from real writers why not, oh I don’t know, write an article?
There is a lot to talk about with regular season fast approaching. We have a lot of promising young players on our team, new additions and schemes that could play out. Why not talk about something else?
I'm waiting until after the game on Thursday to write something on all of this.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
And this is staring down a receiver and leading him into a big hit
I’ve seen it from Anderson enough to know that he will keep on doing it.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
it's a good read
He’s throwing the ball to his hot read since there’s a blitz coming. Also note that Anderson stood there and took the hit that gave the Cards a first down on a third down play.
keep it real Joe
I really enjoy reading your articles and the work you do, however I think you need to be more objective in this QB thing…. we know that both guys have deficiencies in their games, you sound like Leinart has shown something that he hasn’t and like Whisenhunt can’t evaluate QB’s, do you want to see a poor throw, just look at Anquan Boldin’s last play as a Cardinal, it was awfull in a meaningless game… we all knew the pass to Fitzgerald was late and slow, thankfully it wasn’t worst, but if he is not strong and if he is not quick with his decisions, he is not helping his receivers… you can like either Leinart or Anderson, but don’t make it sound as if Leinart is a future hall of famer, or as if Whisenhunt is a rookie head coach; being a long time cadinals fan, is very easy to appreciate what Whisenhunt has done for this franshise, so if you want to question a move made by him or his staff, at least give them the benefit of the doubt (not that they can’t make mistakes) because I think they have earned it…GO CARDINALS…
paco cabrera
I thought the pass to Boldin was a bad one, I'll agree with you there
But I was fine with the pass to Fitz, and I though the DB just went in low.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Just saying
You are fine with the pass to Fitz… yet you are not fine with the pass from Anderson to Williams, just looking at both plays I can tell that Fitzgerald was more vulnerable than Williams, the pass to Williams got to him fast enough to allow him some protection, that pass to Fitz didn’t, he had to go up and get it and by the time the defender close on the play he was still in the air… I don’t know how clean the play was by the DB, but Fitz was vulnerable to being hit and he was hit hard
paco cabrera
No need to be snide.
If you don’t like it, don’t read it.
"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that." - Bill Shankly
by Jesse Reynolds on Sep 1, 2010 12:48 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Used to be that I could read the articles without being "snide"
This used to be a place for informative an useful cards information, sprinkled with a lot of good banter and ball busting. then we, oh yeah, went to the superbowl. Around that same time the website lost a leader who gave a clear perspective and direction that is now lacking. and well children took over and crowded the blog with there crazy ideas and regurgitated information that they heard on the radio.
The problem is not me but the direction this blog is taking. kdean75 and I used to disagree on a lot (when he actually contributed) but it was with mutual respect and made for good conversation, most of the time. Yeah I threw some poo, go cry about it because thats all you guys seem to sdo.
Been lurking
haven’t felt the need to contribute
and F you
I’m joking by the way
I'm always down for some good ole' fashion poo slinging...
and suck a bag of dicks KDean75!
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
you seem
obsessed with this bag of dicks. Freudian slips are a bitch.
It is a hilarious visual.
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
is that your
fantasy football team name? Are you expecting to win the ESPN fantasy game or something?
I’ll stick with Cock ’n Crocs
@ Boog and Matt...
I’m hurt. Young whippersnapper. I thought after last night we had something special. Remember that thing I did?
Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.
by hevchv on Sep 1, 2010 9:07 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
It's about respect
I love a good argument more than anyone but there is no need to get personal. If you don’t have the maturity to argue a point without getting personal go to the AZcardinals forum and join that rabble.
You don’t like someones point/article state why instead of talking about the author itself. Basic arguing 101.
"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that." - Bill Shankly
by Jesse Reynolds on Sep 1, 2010 1:52 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
LMAO Matt! Short sighted whippersnapper, ROTFLMAO!
BTW Eric whatever your name is, Where are you hearing this about the receivers or are you just perpetuating more of your filth on our blog?
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
I think it is part of that thing that Cris Carter said after game 1, or what Michael Lombardi said on NFLN the other day.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I must have missed it.
What was it? Anything confirmed?
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
Lombardi just said some of his sources said the locker room has no faith in him
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Lombardi = Cris Carter whenever it comes to Leinart
by YoungCardsFanatic on Sep 1, 2010 4:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Both of them are a joke
A lot of people I have seen don’t like Lombardi either.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I think lombardi and carter may know more than we do
I remember last week (before the anouncement of the starting QB for the Chicago game), Lombardi wrote that there was a chance Leinart could be cut or traded, I remember Darren Urban saying when asked, that he was sure Leinart will be starting against the Rams… I felt it was a lie by lombardi and felt cris carter had no idea what was going on… almost a week later look where we are not only Lombardi, but also Shefter and others are saying the same about the locker room losing faith in leinart… is not like I am a Lombardi fan or anything, and I don’t like cris carter’s comments, but I can’t think of Whisenhunt making a QB change without taking into consideration what the leaders of the team think, specially Fitzgerald who is in my opinion our best player and the true leader of the offense…
paco cabrera
Im surprise.
That people are 100% sure Matt Leinart is a better choice over Derek
I wish we could keep 4 QB's
Like most of you, all this came as kind of a shock to me. Part of me wants to play it safe and keep Leinart for his familiarity with the system and his often sputtering, but capable play. But another part of me thinks we don’t have the kind of dominate defense needed for Leinarts dump-offs and ball control style. Like Kurt vs Leinart, I see D.A. playing for Touchdowns while Leinart’s playing for 1st downs. While I’m not at all sold yet on D.A. I think the combo of Fitz and Tits will make him look good, and can fill some of the lapses in accuracy we’ve seen out of D.A. We could be in for a long season..but I remain as optimistic as ever.
+1
I also remain optimistic and it came as a shock… maybe DA can help us with the play action throwing long passes to Fitz and Tits… even DRC can play offense in some trick plays… remember he was playing in Cleveland, for a terrible coaching staff and very little talent in that offense, their best offensive play was to give it to Josh Cribbs in the wildcat, so maybe some good coaching, good receivers and a good running game, can help DA and I really will like to see some deep throws, last year that was missing from our offense, because of Warner playing injured, and not having the strongest arm to begin with…
paco cabrera
Let me just say
I do respect the opinion of the people who want DA to be the starter, even though I really disagree with it.
I think that Leinart, even though he won’t be a Future Hall of Famer is our best chance to win right now, I think that he knows the offense and even if there won’t be as many big plays with him (weren’t many last year with Kurt freakin’ Warner last year either, his longest pass was 45 yards and that was in Week 16) that isn’t really a bad thing. I’d rather have someone that can be careful with the ball than someone who has been shown to be a little erratic with his passing.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I agree. Matt should start
I believe in Whiz. Doesn’t mean he’s infallible thou. If you remember an earlier QB decision he made to Start Matt over Warner. I thought he was wrong then, I think he’s wrong now.
by Birdman from Mesa on Sep 1, 2010 3:02 PM MDT up reply actions
conventionality
would say Leinart is the automatic starter this year, he’s played behind Warner, possibly earned it, etc. He may not be the complete QB at present, but maybe he could grow into the role, mature into it. It will be too bad if he doesn’t get a chance at it after paying his dues in a backup role. However, having said that, you don’t win in the NFL by playing it safe. Whiz taking some chances and not necessarily playing within normal convention might not be such a bad thing if he’s seen all he needs to see from Leinart. Maybe he would rather take his chances with DA hucking it around on 3rd and longs than ML checking down and coming up short. However, the bigger picture seems to me that he’s seen something he really likes in Max Hall and the kid may be in the picture faster than any of us imagine. We could simply be looking at Whiz being comfortable with growing pains as long as it’s Max Hall with a high ceiling as opposed to Leinart’s assumed average ceiling.
Go Sedona Red
doesn't anyone remember
Leinart’s rookie season. He was playing well. He lost the starting role due to a broken collar bone and being replaced by a guy on a HOF run.
he played well in his 1 start the last 2 years (@ tenn)—the defense lost that game with a 99 yard final minute (4 4th downs converted) TD drive allowed.
Why do all the DA backers fail to realize that?
BTW—even DA’s probowl (alternate) year—he really wasn’t all that good. 9 of his 20 Td’s that year were against a crappy Bengals team (6 the opening week).
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Sep 1, 2010 6:50 PM MDT reply actions
He had 7 TDs and 6 Picks against the Bengals in 07
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
29 TDs for Anderson in '07
I recall reading somewhere (I think it was over on the Browns’ SB nation blog) after we picked up DA that the games in which he performed particularly well during the ‘07 season were all against teams in the bottom rankings of pass defense that year. He didn’t do better than average against good or even middle ranked pass defenses. DA as the starter is scary. I don’t care how well he’s done in 3 preseason games it hasn’t been enough to shake off 2 terrible years.
I can’t agree that Leinart played well against Tennessee. He didn’t play too poorly but he didn’t get things going on offense either. We’ve seen the same this preseason. After the Titans game people were excusing him because he didn’t get the reps. Now it’s just a different excuse for him. DA may not appear to be a better option but Leinart hasn’t shown he’s the guy to take the Cards to the next level either.
+1
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
That was so long ago
In his rookie year he was playing loose, and he was doing good for a team whose season was lost… at the time of the broken collar bone, Warner was working the two minute offense and Leinart wasn’t doing all that good, I remember the game against Baltimore, just awful against the blitz… he did well against Tennese, not great but we should have won that game, but he hasn’t shown anything special, his passes float, and his decision making is slow, sorry to say this but he is not the superstar we tought we drafted back then, time to move on and hope Whiz and his staff can get the best out of Anderson…
paco cabrera
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