Arizona Cardinals Get Pummeled, Fall To The Atlanta Falcons 41-7
by Andrew602 on Sep 19, 2010 4:11 PM MDT
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PrintAny hope of a quick 2-0 start to the Cardinals' season ended today at the hands of the Atlanta Falcons. The Cardinals quickly saw a close game balloon to a 34-point beating. More questions arose then answers did today. How long does Derek Anderson have before he's benched? What is wrong with the defense? Losing that bad leaves me wondering how the remainder of the season will fare. I'm not giving up yet. Below I'll give you some of my thoughts from the game:
- Derek Anderson's leash should be very short right now. He didn't play well last week against the Rams -- sqeeking out a win. This week he continued to struggle and couldn't lead the Cardinals offense into the red zone or get one third down -- none. I won't start calling for his head just yet but I was ready to see Max Hall in the second half. The game was already out of reach and Anderson did absolutely nothing. Why not put Hall in?
- The defense has the talent, just not he right coordinator.Bill Davis has disappointed me so far this year. His predictable play calling on third down has burned the defense and was the primary reason Matt Ryan and the Falcons' offense were so successful through the air. Davis' constant blitzing at the wrong time has killed the secondary and he's vastly underusing some of the talent on the defense. Davis is slowly turning into Clancy Pendergast 2.0.
- Ken Whisenhunt isn't taking chances. His choice to go for a field goal at the end of the second half didn't make much sense at the time. Down 24-7, a field goal wouldn't have made much of a difference. Also add the fact that the field goal attempt was for 54-yards and Jay Feely isn't known for his leg strength. I would have much rather seen a quick pass for a first down and an attempt for the endzone.
- Penalties have murdered the Cardinals.Twenty penalties in two games is ridiculous. Ken Whisenhunt needs to hold players accountable for committing stupid mistakes. There's really not much more I can say about them. They are drive-killers.
- Jason Snelling Who? Most football fans with common knowledge would consider Michael Turnerout of the game a good thing. Instead, the Cardinals surrendered to his back up's back up -- Jason Snelling. Snelling played the game of his career against the Cardinals and was the primary reason they were blown out so bad.
That's all I can say right now. The only positive was Tim Hightower rebounding from his terrible week one performance. Right now this team must get their crap in order and figure out what they need to do by the time the Raiders come to town next weekend. For now let's just hope the Broncos can continue beating the Seahawks and the 49ers lose to the Saints tomorrow night.
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Every time something went right for us, there was a flag.
The best example is the Kickoff Return TD being called back.
And even though I have bashed DA a lot, the guy is showing a lot of toughness taking all of those shots that he has taken in the first two games. The horrible pass blocking isn’t helping him though…
Hopefully they can get it together next Sunday against the Raiders and (maybe) Bruce Gradkowski now that Campbell has been benched.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I'm still waiting for
this ‘new and improved’ offensive line to show up
by cardsfanforlife24 on Sep 19, 2010 4:24 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Give them at least partial credit on all 3 INTs.
On Anderson’s first interception Ben Patrick barely chip blocked Falcon’s LB Stephen Nicholas (54)before running his route. Nicholas then had a free run on a delayed blitz right into Anderson’s face. No one picked him up. He came through the RG spot. Faneca was busy helping Sendlein double team Kroy Beirman (71). The two barely kept him off of Anderson too. Jonathan Babineaux (95) ran right around Brandon Keith as well. Levi Brown blocked his man but was flagged for illegal formation because he was lined up too deep.
On Anderson’s second interception Levi Brown lets Jamaal Anderson (98) run around him. Hightower picked up a blitzing LB. J. Anderson came clean on D. Anderson’s back side who barely got it off in time. The pass is a little high and off Williams’ hands.
On Max Hall’s interception Faneca gets pushed through. Hall’s pass is behind Fitz and lacks sufficient velocity.
This game was embarrassing
And all your points were correct. I personally think the Max Hall interception was out of complete pressure to do something good, and because our O-line can’t block for their lives.
Coach Whiz made some bad decisions. He should have sent Hall in earlier, because DA wasn’t going to make an amazing comeback anytime soon.
DA needs to step up, or Fitz’s numbers could be in trouble. If DA doesn’t perform good, I think we could see Max Hall in soon. I’m not even kidding. I seriously think that Coach Whiz would do that.
Welcome to the club
Us 49ers fans got a shovel full of ‘embarrassing’ to swallow last Sunday. However, unlike having the Raiders to rebound whoop-ass on we have the freaking SB Champ 1-0 Saints to bounce back against. Oh boy.
"Careful Grasshopper ~ that's a god you're mauling." Master Takeo
Normally
I wouldn’t root for you guys, but since I have The Stud Frank Gore on my fantasy team I am hoping for some good numbers.
by Jesse Reynolds on Sep 19, 2010 5:42 PM MDT up reply actions
You guys got it worse because of all the hype for your club beforehand combined with teh expectations for Seattle.
The Falcons are a good team. The Seahawks, who knows what they are?
by hadrarius on Sep 19, 2010 6:00 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
whiz will not
put hall in a meaningful game. Unless DA is hurt of course, which very well might happen. In that case our division title goes down the drain
You are worried about Fitz's numbers? Fantasy football?
I’m sure Whiz would take no catches for Fitz and a win every week.
by ericalancanty on Sep 19, 2010 5:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Numbers doesn't automatically translate to FF
But good numbers from Fitz more often than not translates to a win.
by cardsfanforlife24 on Sep 19, 2010 5:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Eric, I don't have Fitz on my fantasy team
He was long gone by like the 2nd Round of something.
I’m just saying that if DA does bad, then that means Fitz does bad. I wasn’t thinking about Fantasy Football at all.
No Way
Cutting Leinart seals the deal with Anderson. They’ve made their bed with DA so now we need to live with it. Hall? are you kidding me? I’m not drinking the kool-aid on this kid…I think he might be good, but its just too early for the kid. This has more to do about the O-line.
by Cardzfan on Sep 19, 2010 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
why not pick up garcia
he is available and better than DA has shown to be, and the guy plays with fire unlike matt did.
by cardsfaninpenn on Sep 19, 2010 9:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Some of you people thought that Leinart had a noodle arm
And now we are talking about Garcia?
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Well, he'll get in shape putting a whoopin' on the rest of the UFL
We can’t technically sign him until their season is over, either way, which is around our week 8 I think?
Agreed
Skelton is our future…Hall is just a bonus….
by Cardsfan928 on Sep 20, 2010 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions
atlanta loss
i dont know what made whiz think that da was the answer to our offense .this club invested over 17 million a nd over three yrs to leinhaert and just cause the coach didnt like him hes gone with no real chance given to him .forget the division the playoffs we will be fighting the lambs for the sellker .that game made me sick to my stomach
Besides the sloppy everything
Whiz didn’t do it because he didn’t like the guy, he did it because Matt has no fire.
by Jesse Reynolds on Sep 19, 2010 5:43 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thats what they said about Eli Manning, No emotion.
That said, Matt would not have givin up so quickly. The Cards should not have given up on him.
absolutely did not like him
it was simply a personal thing Whisenchump could not rise above… Boldin confirmed it… the team was not rallying round ML because they all knew Witlesshunt disliked him and wanted to get rid of him…. this whole ‘chemistry’ nonsense is just that, nonsense… welcome to a CKW engineered and constructed team… hello same old cardinals, been awile, what ya been up to ?
by scsa69 on Sep 19, 2010 5:58 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Scsa
How can you call yourself a Cardinals fan and insult Coach Ken Wisenhunt? This is the guy who’s led the Cardinals to two straight playoff titles. This is the guy who hasn’t had a losing season during his tenure. This is the guy who led the Cardinals to their first ever Superbowl. This is the guy who’s won more Playoff games while being Head Coach than the Cardinals have won in the entire history of the franchise.
Coach Whiz has done so much for the organization, and I think it’s completely unfair, and not to mention dumb, to insult him in any way. The one thing Coach Whiz likes best is winning, and he’ll do whatever it takes to win. He would never, ever in his life get rid of someone just because of personal feelings. He got rid of Matt Leinart because he believed he wasn’t the future. So give Coach Whiz a break, and enough with the names. They’re pretty bad insults if you ask me.
by Skii on Sep 19, 2010 7:19 PM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
We can keep on drinking the Whiz kool-aid until our stomachs explode, but it won't help us win any games
by YoungCardsFanatic on Sep 19, 2010 7:32 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hey, while you are at it, stop recommending you own post
A man from Dallas who bleeds red, not silver and blue.
I like Whiz
and he’s done good things for the Cards. But the Cards screwed the pooch on the QB position for this year. Whether Leinart was or wasn’t the future, Anderson was a daft acquistion at best.
by Cryptopunk on Sep 19, 2010 8:13 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well said
You can criticize him all you want, but calling the coach sophomoric names like ‘Whisenchump’ and ‘Witlesshunt’ is just plain lame. It damages your argument rather than enhances it. Especially when he happens to be the coach that has turned around a franchise that was once synonymous with losing.
I agree about Wisenhunt
For the most part. He brought a lot of good attitude with him, but alot of the credit goes to Warner carrying us for 3yrs. Whiz may be the brains, but Warner was the heart. If Leinart was not the Answer, why did we not go after a new franchise quarterback. There were some good ones available to draft and McNabb wanted to be here. To ever consider DA a quarterback to get us to the promise land is preposterous. I wanted to believe he was goint to be the guy from 2007 (still threw 19 picks), but he has resorted to form for all the other seasons he has been in the league. And now we have an undrafted rookie as his backup. Things better turn around quick against the raiders. And I am not talking about ekeing out a win. We need to show something more against them or we are looking at a long season.
by Suns Fan For Life on Sep 20, 2010 7:21 AM MDT up reply actions
And DA has so much fire, right?
I mean, look at him! He was on fire today! He managed to stay consistent with his performances last season! At this rate DA will go 2-for-17 again, but this time against the Saints, if he makes it that far! Good thing DA has those swagtangibles to help him out!
by YoungCardsFanatic on Sep 19, 2010 6:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Haters gonna hate.
Hate, hate, hate. I have seen too many fair weather fans as a Card. The long tenured guys get pissed but at least we have perspective some people seem to lack.
by Jesse Reynolds on Sep 19, 2010 7:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Wow, where to begin?
So I am a “hater” all of a sudden? So does anyone who criticizes the performance of a quarterback or the coach who decided to play him a “hater?” If I criticize fans for expecting DA to get any better, I am a hater, or am I someone who wishes to voice his opinion? I have avoided any name-calling on these boards and tried to argue logically instead, but I am a “hater” because I have an opinion that is different from someone else’s? I never believed in DA as the starter, and I don’t believe in him now. QB’s with big arms and accuracy issues are a dime a dozen. But, because I am a “hater,” I should just shut up and drink the kool-aid like everyone else.
And I am a “fair-weather fan” too? Granted, I may not have the impressive tenure some Cards fans have (hence the YOUNGCardsFanatic moniker) but considering I have been a fan of the Cardinals since I was 8 and first learned about football, and became a fan of them since they were winning 4 or 5 games every year, I think I have the right to ask people to hold off on the “fair-weather” claims.
Perspective? Let me show you some perspective: Anderson’s accuracy so far in this league? 56.4%, 56.5%, 50.2%, 44.5%, and 53.7% (this season). If it hasn’t improved after 4 years, it probably won’t get much better. Even if DA does develop chemistry with the team (but again, his chemistry was supposedly one of the reasons we made him the starter) it will probably take more games and once we get to that mountain the journey to get there and the payoff might not be worth it. Are you willing to wait even longer considering the talent we have on this team, and the fact we may not be this talented again for a long while? I am not. DA was a stopgap solution at QB, at best, and he can’t even provide that. We will throw Hall or Skelton to the wolves and soon everyone will jump off those bandwagons, too, all because we can’t find a good quarterback unless he drops into our lap, a la Kurt Warner.
by YoungCardsFanatic on Sep 19, 2010 8:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Sorry to both of you then...I was just frustrated. Hopefully we can put this loss behind us ASAP.
by YoungCardsFanatic on Sep 19, 2010 9:30 PM MDT up reply actions
No worries
My bad too. Was for SCSA ragging on Whiz. I’m not a total homer, I know Whiz isn’t infallible, but I have a lot of faith in him.
by Jesse Reynolds on Sep 19, 2010 11:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Haters
It’s not that you disagree with the coach or dislike the QB and/or his play, it’s how you present your argument. I agree that DA is looking like crap and would even agree that it was a questionable acquisition, even as a number 2, but when people start mocking and deriding the coaches and players, that’s when the “hater” tag gets applied. THIS WAS GAME #2! Quit throwing the Cards to the wolves. Every season we have bad (even really bad) games. We have a new QB with a crappy pedigree (being nice) and a bunch of new players. The coaches need to fit it all together and the players need to gel. We are 1 and 1 with the Raiders next week. I don’t think you are a hater, but I sure as hell think you need to take a chill pill and trust that the best thing the Cards have ever had in their favor (Whis) will pull this all together.
GO CARDS!!
"The true test of a person's intellligence is how much they agree with you."
Leinart
had chance after chance to prove he was the guy with the WR duo in the league….and he never did…
by Cardsfan928 on Sep 20, 2010 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions
As tough
as DA is….
He still had a lot of bad inaccurate throws. I like the guy and want him to do well but man he makes it tough to root for him sometimes.
The penalties are a pain. Talk about momentum killers. Imo the outcome would have been different take away the penalties…
But whats done is done. Lets prepare for our first home game against the Raiders!
Go Cards! in Whiz we trust!
what?
for one thing, the defense is not that talented. We have 2 old men that, from what we have seen the first 2 games, are not what they once were at OLB. We have a rookie WILB in Washington who looks to be pretty good. Paris Lenon is very average. Our secondary is horrible. We have two run stopping safeties, along with a 2nd year, 4th round pick at CB(that gets beat….a lot). Our front 3 are good, but all of the other weaknesses are too much to overcome. I dont know where this idea of us having a lot of talent came from. We lost so much talent, think of who is missing: berry,dansby, rolle, hayes, McFadden(ill take him over toler any day). We obviously didnt replace them adequately. Its not all Bill Davis’ fault, he doesnt have the players.
Also Whiz made the right call on that field goal at the end of the half. It would have cut the lead to 2 scores with us getting the ball in the second half.
Wow
Are you nuts? McFadden was terrible! Berry was rated one of the worst starting OLB’s in the game last year. We lost some talent we have enough talent that we should never be embarrassed like that. Some over hype, you do the opposite.
by Jesse Reynolds on Sep 19, 2010 5:46 PM MDT up reply actions
he could rush the passer
on third and long id take him over anyone we have now.
the moment i read
that you would take mcfadden over toler any day i stopped reading your post.
by cardsfanforlife24 on Sep 19, 2010 5:47 PM MDT up reply actions 6 recs
u know hes starting for the steelers
and their defense has given up 20 points in two games…….just sayingggg
He also got burned during the first game repeatedly.
They targeted him something like 13 times for 111 yards. He’s not that good. Pittsburgh’s defense is.
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i just looked it up, roddy white had 13 rec for 111 yards in the first game. Im sure ike taylor was matched up with him most of the game for one thing,, Mac isnt their #1 corner…… Matt Ryan had 252 yards passing, thats playing good d. Im not saying hes all-pro, but hes better than toler. Thats all im saying. Maybe since hes doing well over there proves there is something wrong with our d. Dont just look at a WR’s numbers and say he was getting “burned” when u dont know who he was matched up with. And finally, 13 rec for 111 yards is like a 8 yard average per catch…..thats not good! he didnt do great for us, but honestly it was probly some of the positions we put him in. my original comment was just meant to say that the defense didnt replace the talent it lost
I got that from Falcons fans who watched the game.
Let’s not forget that during the Saints game in last year’s playoffs that Brees went after McFadden not Toler after DRC came out. He got burned plenty last year in arizona. My point was that Pittsburgh has a good defense regardless of McFadden’s contribution. Toler is better and has more room for improvement than McFadden. He gets a lot of balls thrown his way because DRC is being avoided. I don’t agree that the secondary is that weak. I do agree that the linebackers are. There is no outside pass rush and they are also soft against the run.
by hadrarius on Sep 19, 2010 10:42 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
they wouldnt of picked up
his 5 mil a year contract if they didnt think he could play.Also, if hes good enough for the steelers he is good enough to play for the cardinals….steelers>cards. .
Steelers are playing good D with McFadden
…so that means our defense has something wrong? McFadden was and clearly still is a product of the Steeler defense. He needs that defense to look “good.”
by GivingThemFitz on Sep 20, 2010 2:30 AM MDT up reply actions
Ike Taylor doesn't move around the field
They exploited McFadden by moving White to his side often.
This from reports after the game, and from me living in Steelerville, PA.
matt ryan
threw for 250 yards….thats a pretty good game for a defense.
yes
for a DEF it is. But a single player does not a DEF make. This is a team sport. The PIT scheme is one that will allow a DB to ‘look good’ due to the pressure of the front 7. If I’m not mistaken McFadden was beaten for a TD in TEN game. I was all aboard the Bandwagon when he arrived, but learned quickly he wasn’t what we were shopping for…
our defense is supposed to get pressure
but they dont, so it makes our db’s look bad. thats what i was saying. U cant expect every corner u have to absolutely shut it down. Toler has gotten eaten alive in the first 2 games. Mcfadden was not great, but we went 10-6 last year….so it wasnt like he was killin us either. There is no way this team wins 10 games. The point of my comment was to say that the cards dont have personnel they need to play their type of defense…thats all, stop clinging to one name i mentioned.
We won 10 games in spite of McMuffin,
not because of him. Don’t confuse the two. All he did was get burned for countless TDs and miss text book tackles. I will always believe we would have been better off keeping Rod Hood over McWorthless. Toler has already proven he is a better player. If our pass rush improves, you will see much better play from our secondary. Its not McFluffy, its the Steeler front 7. Believe that.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.
if he was that bad
they wouldnt have picked up his 5 mil/ year contract…..think about that…..
Think about this.
He is gone because we found a better option. He was never the long term answer. Everyone knows Whiz drafts players to sit behind a vet for a year (the last year of their contract or the last year they’re with the team) then they start the next year. He sucked. Why would we keep him. At least we got Skelton out of the trade. You really are delusional. I will continue to pray for you and watch your vitals.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.
why would a team like the steelers
pay him 5 mil a year if he sucked??? u know better than the steelers organization?
Obviously...
You never watched McFadden last year…
by Cardsfan928 on Sep 20, 2010 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions
he wasnt horrible
he was picked on cause DRC was on the other side. Our front seven dont get consistent pressure, its hard to be a CB for the cards! remember rod hood?? everyone was ready to see hiim go too. Mcfadden>rod hood, so it was an upgrade.
Mcfadden>rod hood, so it was an upgrade.
I get it. Where’s the camera? I must be getting punked. Hood went to Tennessee and played well before the injury.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.
u just got done saying mcfadden was a below average player
even though he plays for one of the best D’s in the league. hood plays for a good D, so he is an ok player, despite his failure as a cardinal? U dont understand, the steelers>>>>>>>cards, and mcfadden is STARTING for them. if he wasnt good, they wouldnt have picked up his 5 mil/year contract also…thats a lot of money
He knows their system and works well with the team.
That doesn’t mean he is a good player. Put him on any other team and watch him fail. DELUSIONAL!!!
Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.
never said he was the best
just an average player thats all, i believe all i said was he was better than toler….thats it haha.
Toler was described as our best man coverage corner last year
He’s younger and faster and suits our scheme better than McFadden. His ceiling is quite a bit higher. Having not gotten to watch Wks. 1 or 2, I can’t really comment any more on this topic, but remember that Toler was/is a small-school project. I think by the end of the season you’ll change your tune on the guy, whether or not he deserves credit at this point.
Nothing to like about this game...
pathetic all the way around. I really don’t undestand why any team would have grabbed Anderson for anything but a backup. The OL sucks something fierce, but Anderson is just awful. I’m glad he’s tough, but tough doesn’t mean anything if he can’t get the ball into the hands of our receivers. He’s also very lucky he doesn’t have more INTs on the season than he does. Hopefully the OL can improve and that in turn will allow Anderson to become more effective.
As for the defense – I personally think the secondary is a bit weak – my opion is that DRC is very overrated. Other than the secondary – I think they have quality talent, so I’ve no idea why they haven’t shown better.
Thankfully it’s the Raiders next week and not a quality opponent. Not that it’s a gimme, but at least we should have a shot at it.
their LBs are not good
the secondary sucks though, but i dont think DRC is overrated at all
Linebackers aren't getting it done.
Washington is going to be a great player but he’s still a rookie and will make mistakes. Porter and Haggans aren’t doing enough. Lenon is not a top talent. He’s just filling in until Hayes gets back, if Hayes gets back.
I don’t think the secondary is weak but I would agree that DRC is a little over rated.
Porter hasn't been generating much of anything.
Looking like Miami got the better end of the deal.
by Jesse Reynolds on Sep 19, 2010 7:55 PM MDT up reply actions
The Rams were holding him like crazy.
No excuses for today. Can’t express how disappointed I am that all those young olb prospects washed out.
by hadrarius on Sep 19, 2010 8:00 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I suppose that was the better question
I knew about StL but wasn’t sure about Atl. Guess I’d just like to know if there’s a reason he’s on our roster…
there wasn't any deal
Dansby was a free agent. he signed with the highest bidder.
we signed Porter as a free agent as well.
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Sep 20, 2010 6:39 AM MDT up reply actions
You guys keep talking about how tough DA is, the guy sucks and more often than not you will find yourselves having these discussions.
Like I said, if Whiz cuts Leinart and starts DA, it is the begining of the end for him in AZ. You barely beat the Rams and DA sucked, and now…well it wasn’t good for you or the NFC West today, and DA sucked. If you start your rookie, then maybe you can salvage a good season but DA will only take you down further into the darkness. The good news is, that this is only one game, and you can’t and shouldn’t be measured by one loss. I root for the Cards when they don’t play the 49ers. I want you guys to do well so that the NFC isn’t the laughing stock of Football. So regroup and kill the Raiders.
The offensive line is garbage. That's why Anderson's toughness is relevant.
If Leinart’s toughness was being questioned by his teammates what could be expected of him when taking the kind of shots Anderson has been taking? In all likelihood we’d already be seeing Anderson anyway.
by hadrarius on Sep 19, 2010 6:12 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Leinart probably wouldn't be taking those shots, because he would have thrown the checkdown passes everyone hates.
But at least we would be getting some positive yardage. DA just holds on to the ball and takes those shots instead of attempting a pass.
by YoungCardsFanatic on Sep 19, 2010 6:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Sure, because Leinart was known for his fast release. Not.
Leinart would get pounded just as badly. Max Hall will get pounded just as badly. The offensive line play has been trash. No one is going to survive long behind that sieve.
It's not because of his fast release, it's because of his ability to get the ball out under pressure
But we can debate about ifs and buts all day. I expect DA and the O-line to look better next week against the Raiders, but they are still the Raiders, just as the Rams were still the Rams. If we didn’t have the easiest schedule in the NFL a terrible record would be more believable, but if we just beat the bad and mediocre teams we could still contend for the division title.
by YoungCardsFanatic on Sep 19, 2010 6:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Based on what, just the competition?
DA was 54%, about normal for him. The line hasn’t shown the ability to do jack. The one thing going for us with the Raiders is it’s almost a sure thing that they’ll be penalized more.
easiest schedule ?
you guys just keep failing to get it, don’t you. Our schedule is only easy because of
the RAMS
the Seahawks and
the 9ers.
do you really think we have a lock on them, after the past 2 weeks ?
remove intra-divisional games for ALL teams and calculate the strength of schedule and we have the 6th (SIXTH) hardest in the NFL.
feeling good about our ‘easy’ schedule now ?
Games we should win:
Rams x 2
Raiders
Buccaneers
Chiefs
Iffy games right now, based on our performance so far this season:
Seattle x 2
69ers x 2
Panthers
Broncos
Games that will probably turn into another Jets/Patriots/Philadelphia/Saints/Falcons game:
Cowgirls (as much as I hate to say it)
Vikings (ditto)
Saints
Chargers
Falcons (already happened)
Depends on how many of the “iffy” games we can win, but I think we can go into the final game of the season at 9-6.
by YoungCardsFanatic on Sep 19, 2010 7:39 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cowboys and Vikings are playing like garbage too.
Right now anyway. We’ll see how long that continues. I don’t put any stock in strength of schedule. With the way the team is playing I wouldn’t count any game as a win until it’s over. We got thrashed today. We’ll probably stomp a team we shouldn’t and lose to a team we should walk over.
by hadrarius on Sep 19, 2010 7:52 PM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
they are all iffy
right now, with DA at the helm (or Mild Max) and the defense a shambles, I would call EVERY game ‘iffy’. Even the RAMS (Bradford, unlike DA is just going to get better).
How you can dream 9 wins is beyond me.
Long
The shot that DA took in the StL game where Long came off of the end and put his face right into his sternum would’a been the end of Leinart for at least that game. Anderson was shook after the hit. Fumbled around in the OFF backfield and then finally called a timeout and scuttled over to the bench. I rewound and watched it 5 or 6 times and fully expected to see Hall play for at least a drive or two. DA stuck in there and got the win. Tough? Sure. Accurate? Not often…
How do you know that Leinart would be out after that hit?
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Collar bones rarely heal to full strength.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.
I do remember him taking a shot against ASU when he was with USC
He had some knee injury and everyone thought he was done for the day after that, but he stayed in for the rest of the game.
Its not like he isn’t tough.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Not mentally tough.
His sense of entitlement was his undoing. If he had any resolve, he would still be our QB. But I don’t think he would have faired any better than DA so he just saved us $10mil for next season.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.
Thanks for pulling for us...
For a fan of a division rival, that’s good of you. And I agree that DA has sucked. I still believe he was brought in to be a backup and question some of the circumstances that made him the starter. That said, I also think that your coach Singletary will be fired long before Whiz will.
Please...
We dont need to hear about QB’s you’ve been riding your first round bust to no end….
by Cardsfan928 on Sep 20, 2010 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions
We have a lot of problems in a lot spots
Bill Davis is a big problem—there are 4 (potential) probowlers on defense—(DD—CC—DRC—A-Dub)—How many teams have that many quality players and they aren’t even close to being good.
Andrew’s point of being transparent—blitzing an every 3rd down—blitzing in general—keeps getting us killed. How many times did A-Dub blitz from the defense left and have that running back go 10 plus yards to other side (with A-Dub chasing from behind).
At the time—I was very upset about benching leinart—but figured Whiz knows better than me. I’ve never seen what he does in DA—but the guy just sucks. For every time he makes a good throw—there’s at least 1 bad throw to an open guy—but the ball is too high or too hard and so often behind the receiver—its like he thinks because he can throw it hard—he can throw where the receiver is, instead of where he’s going to be.
Penalty’s, where to start….coaching? (mostly)—undisaplined—(that’s coaching’s fault) ref’s—(sometimes—not always).
I don’t claim to know how fix all the problem’s, but starting Hall can’t be worse than DA.
by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Sep 19, 2010 6:05 PM MDT reply actions
Only positive was Tim Hightower? How about Fitz catching 7 passes.
Fitz still didn’t look 100% but there was a lot of improvement there. Outside of that, the Hightower TD and the LSH TD return that was called back everything else was crap.
by hadrarius on Sep 19, 2010 6:16 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree with this.
If there was one thing positive I could take from today, it was better “chemistry” (there’s that word again) between DA and Fitz. I thought it looked better than last week.
Hightower + 80 yard TD = DOOM!
Beware the next time he breaks off a long one!
by GivingThemFitz on Sep 20, 2010 2:47 AM MDT up reply actions
It was the first thing that came to mind.
I was at work watching the play-by-play on my phone. When I saw that, I got really scared. Guess I was right to be.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.
Thank you for reminding me of the Saints game...
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Has anyone else seen the intro to sunday night football
And thought damn I wish I had Payton Manning throwing to Fitz?
Remember no matter where you go in life...there you are!
by McCards010 on Sep 19, 2010 6:24 PM MDT reply actions
Donovan McNabb 28 of 38 73.7% 426yds 1td 0INT 119.0qb rating
Just saying…
We signed a 50% career passer with one decent season, what did you expect from him?
Fact – he should have been picked off at least 3 times last week against the Rams, but the Rams’ let the ball go through their hands. We lucked out. Did you expect anything different this game? I honestly knew it was only a matter of time before he would throw a couple of interceptions. He’s a pretty bad QB.
I’ll give him credit for being tough and not giving up and getting back right up, but shit, I want a QB that will actually improve and not just one with the willingness to improve.
McNabb had a good game today.
It’s a bit mind numbing that they didn’t go after him. It’s also why I can’t buy the idea that Whisenhunt just wanted to get rid of Leinart all along. If that was the case I think McNabb would have been here and we’d be in a much better situation.
Plus, I think the Cards wanted someone to depend on for years
Although McNabb’s still got 4-5 years in him if he stays healthy.
Whis should have pulled the trigger on his decision way earlier...
in regards the our QB situation. We should have gone and gotten McNabb and we’d be a Super Bowl contender this year rather than scrambling for some offensive production. I don’t want to throw DA to the wolves just yet because quite frankly our Line has been aweful. Bottom line, game #2. Let’s revisit in 2 or 3 more games!
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
I can't believe you guys are calling for Matt Leinart
If I remember correctly, most of you who are insulting DA and saying Leinart would’ve done better were the people who were calling for Leinart’s head while he was still here.
Stick with something. You either like DA or don’t. Stop going back and forth. That’s sort of being bandwagonish whithen your team. You guys didn’t want Leinart, you got what you wanted. Now stick with what you have, and stop complaining. It’s really getting on my nerves.
I was always a Leinart fan...
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I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
im not a fan
of wounded ducks fluttering through the middle of the field. ill take DA and his arm, at least he is capable of making plays.
I was a Leinart fan, if you call being a "fan" willing to see him play in a regular season game.
And forget, it doesn’t matter if DA can throw the ball 100 yards, if he can’t hit his receivers he is worthless.
by YoungCardsFanatic on Sep 19, 2010 7:40 PM MDT up reply actions
I know you were a Leinart fan, Joe
But I’m talking about the people who publicly said that the Cards needed to start DA, and are now publicly saying that DA is terrible, and we need Leinart, and Leinart would’ve done much better.
I'll support Anderson unless he starts playing worse than he was last year with the Browns.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I always thought Anderson sucked...
and that signing him was dumb – and then naming him the starter was worse than dumb. But I don’t know about Leinart – last real game he played in he was ok, though not great. I’m just pissed we tied our wagon to Anderson. Since we’ve got Anderson tough, I’m rooting for him but I don’t expect much.
Here here!
Couldn’t have said it better. Anderson is certainly not a franchise QB. I have no problem with him over Leinart, however. Most coaches want ‘their guy’ at QB. Leinart was Denny Green’s guy, and I’m frankly not all that broken up that they’re both now gone.
If Whiz has the intention of running the ball more then DA is a decent option. He certainly needs more game-time experience to learn that he will likely only have about 3 secs to pass the ball with the OL play. We don’t have a great pass blocking group. Warner certainly made everyone in the passing OFF look better. Without that, we’re back to ‘hoping’ that we can connect on plays.
Let’s get Beanie back, use he and Hightower to keep each of them fresh and keep giving LaSH a couple of run plays each game as a change of pace. We’ll be okay…
…once we have a D coordinator who has a play sheet with more than 4 plays on it. Oy vey the D is really starting to get to me. Too many players in bad positions throughout the ATL game. There was a 3rd and 5 where Davis had 3 DBs over the top. DRC is 10 yds off the line and an ATL WR catches the ball in front of him for a 1st down. There was no LB in the flat and no DE dropped out either. I mean…honestly…there was a huge void in the D at the point of the field that should have been of concern.
Was the Ref in the game the same one from the opener against the 49ers last year?
A lot of the bad calls in this game reminded me of the ones from that game (like the helmet to helmet call on Toler).
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
by JoeCB1991 on Sep 19, 2010 7:28 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
agreed
there were many borderline calls at best. the officiating was over zealous
http://www.reverbnation.com/chrisfarmer
Thoughts - I agree with Andrew on everything except point 1
so here are my thoughts.
On point one, no way is DA on a short leash. Whiz cut Leinart and made his bed. Now he needs to get comfortable with it. I do agree with you Whiz needs to take more risks. Hall’s not ready, and its not worth it to try at this point. I actually think the o looked a little better than last week, when they weren’t killing themselves with the penalties.
Speaking of that, penalties killed us. And the D killed us. Look at the stats. These guys need to stop the run. They should be ashamed they made Snelling look like a pro-bowler. And the 3rd down conversion was horrible. Whether that’s the players, Davis, etc. This one is on the D.
Having said this, I think its a bad game and we need to move on. Two road games and we’re 1-1. Continue improving and take care of business for the home opener.
GO CARDS!!!!!
by Cardzfan on Sep 19, 2010 8:20 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Bad game
There are worse things than coming out of an opening road trip 1-1. It’s not an encouraging 1-1 though. I liked DA in St. Louis despite the problems, and it is still early. The O-line either has to improve or he needs to figure out to beat blitzes himself.
It is tempting to read a lot into this game but I remember one of the infuriating things about being a Cards fan is their tendency to take 2 or 3 games off a year during the regular season. As one headline put it after the San Fran MNF game last year, “Mr. Hyde Shows Up Again.” Up until midway through the 2nd quarter this game was close. Somehow after that the whole team just decided to pack it in. What gives?
2 key points though: the penalties and O-line play are outrageous. They need to clean this up or it’s going to be a long season
by abenz on Sep 19, 2010 9:10 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
The team I watched today
had me thinking I was watching the 08/09 Browns all over again, I don’t think anything more needs to be said about that.
This offense will do nothing if they don’t find a way to fix this O-line, or lack there of. So far in these first two games DA has been hit more times than all of last year, that’s not good. Fix the O-line and stop all the stupid penalties and this team should be just fine, if not it’s going to be a long year…
relax
they just played a poor game, thats all. its happened before and it will happen again. no need to panic. Whiz typically gets the guys amped for their next game following a loss, and it will also be the home opener.
http://www.reverbnation.com/chrisfarmer
the only thing 'reassuring' me right now
is the fact that we are the Arizona Cardinals. For as along as I can remember (even with Whiz at the helm) we are usually good for 3-4 games a season where we are blown out by a mediocre/good opponent. We completely fall apart, the penalty bug/godzilla shows up, and we look like a completely different team then what we usually are. That being said it is a little concerning when it happens in the second game of the year because we haven’t seen anything other than poor performances. I do agree with you 100% and hope Whiz can continue his trend of generally coming back strong from an embarrassing loss.
by cardsfanforlife24 on Sep 19, 2010 9:35 PM MDT up reply actions
like other teams have done
maybe it is time to look in a different direction for QB, the raiders switched o gradkowski and won why not look to pick up another qb? i’m not saying to get rid of hall or skelton just let them learn. DA cant be any more inaccurate and his completion percentage has a lot to do with the receivers helping him when thy can. He has no touch, ye she is tough but look at his demeanor when they are down. Where is that fire ? 1-1 is still tied for the tiop of the division, but how long will that last without a change?
You got a probowl quality QB in your back pocket?
Just curious who you think is available at this point. The team passed on the best available QB in the off season in McNabb. They’re tied to Anderson now for better or worse.
Niner fan here.
I’m not writing to gloat about your loss. I am a huge fan of the SF – AZ rivalry so this frustrates me too. But after watching the dolphins’ Karlos Dansby lead his team, you guys are lacking in leadership. I understand being a top team makes keeping top players difficult, but keeping Dansby should have been a priority. I think this has hurt more than Leinart losing his job. Thoughts? Solutions? Cards got ran all over
by mcwagner on Sep 19, 2010 9:53 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
exactly
i think it came down to who they wanted to pay, they had to sign dockett, wilson, and dansby. They could only sign two of them, and dansby was left out. The dolphins payed A LOT for him though. We need Gerald Hayes, and no one knows if he is coming back this year
Uncapped year!
They could have f&#$ing forked over the money!
Out of curiosity, anyone know what our cap is this year in comparison to last years?
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
Dansby was offered basically the same deal in AZ as he was in Miami.
He wanted a payday for sure but there was more to it or he’d have stayed. He fired his agent when a deal was close. It wasn’t that the Cardinals didn’t try to keep him. Daryl Washington is actually doing really well. He’s going to be a great replacement for Dansby. It’s the rest of the starting LBs that are problematic. Porter and Haggans are both 33. So far they’re not bringing the heat. There isn’t much in the way of depth behind them. Paris Lenon is filling in for Gerald Hayes who is on the PUP list. With all the questioning about Bill Davis’ play calling I think it’s reasonable to question the leadership on the field too. Who is making the defensive calls on the field?
by hadrarius on Sep 19, 2010 10:55 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
great knowledge
Thanks to you and forget. So dansby wasn’t staying, move on. But you still need a defensive leader and someone needs to step up the X-factor. Dockett has the swagger, maybe needs a bit more maturity
by mcwagner on Sep 19, 2010 11:30 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
im almost positive
the cards didnt offer him a similar pay day. Are u aware that dansby is the highest payed LB in the league??? no way the cards would pay that for a guy that hasnt made a pro bowl. he was very important, but not worth paying him that much
Yeah I'm aware that he's the highest paid player at his position.
I’m also aware that he shitcanned his agent when an agreement was in the works. No one outside the organization, Dansby and his new agent will know for sure what the deal was that they offered him but by all reports at the time it was comparable. They franchised Dansby 2 years in a row. They wouldn’t have done that if they didn’t want him on the team. Is he overpaid? Yes. Would the team have overpaid him too? Reports at the time said yes.
Haggans
actually had a great game. he looks better this year than last IMO. 33 is up there but he is making plays. we badly need Gerald Hayes back though
http://www.reverbnation.com/chrisfarmer
Haggans and Porter aren't getting at the QB.
That’s why Porter was brought in. It’s what you expect out of your outside linebackers if you are going to have a dominating 3-4. My major concern is really the depth though. Schofield is only a question mark at this point. We’ve got Davis and a guy picked up off of waivers.
I agree 100%
Who would win in a fight, Whisenhunt or a Hurricane?
Hold on, hold on, what if the Hurricanes name was Whisenhunt?
Daaaaaaaaaa Cards, Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards Da Cards!!!
Hey Coach W, you just won "The Flying Fickle Finger of Fate Award".
AZ Retiree I watched the first quarter and it seemed like the NFL refs sent a message to the Cardinals: This game will be won by the Falcons, in front of their home town fans. No matter what the Cardinals get started it will be stopped by our little yellow flags. The NFL wants to build the Pro Football business in Atlanta so the refs were given the assignment to make that happen.
I grant you, the Falcons played well and scored 41 points against a normally better than average defense. The number of penalties that were thrown against Arizona was a bit over the top. Whizenhunt finally gave up and put his Rookie QB in to experience an interception. I may be a conspiricy theorist, but you must admit it was barage of laundry thrown at the feet of Cardinals. In any play in the NFL you can find a penalty if you try, and these refs really tried. I hope it has the desired results and brings in more ATL fans and sells more gear, you guys need a boost. Most of all, I hope the Falcon players can use this W as a spring board into a play-off caliber team. As for the Cards, I wonder how long it will it be before Whizenhunt admits he made a mistake for betraying Matt Leinart and tossing him out the door without warning? (Never!) I have a feeling this made all the other players realize that that the same could happen to them. Their coach is willing to betray any player at any time. First Bolden, who is playing great with his new team, and the #1 draft pick Matt Leinart. If I were a Cardinal player it would be difficult to trust my head coach and the front office. I am sure my game intensity may suffer if there is a smidgen of doubt about my job security. I predict two more losses with Anderson at the wheel before he is permenantly replaced by the rookie Hall, who will begin his OJT. Pray for us in Arizona, for the coach knows not what he does. Sorry no playoffs this year for Arizona, and I hope Leinart gets a couple of opportunities to help the Texans win two or three games along the season. I have a feeling its time for Leinart to spread his wings and take off to become an elite QB in the NFL. He no longer has a vindictive coach holding him back. I believe it is time to replace Whizenhunt with a coach who can make his players feel valuable, wanted and that they have some job security. A professional NFL head coach. Thanks for giving us a start in the right direction but your success has gone to your head and it would be best for all parties concerned if you resign after this season if we do not make the playoffs with this team that you put together. Another words if you do not continue to perform as a winning head coach, we fans want a divorce because you betrayed our trust by sending our good kids away. Be a man, and resign if we end up with an 8-8 or worse record.
Betrayed? Divorce? Really?
The NFL is a business. If you really believe that your views are what the players think of Whisenhunt then you need to read and listen to what the guys on the team actually say about him. Guys like Fitz, Wilson and Dockett, or did they betray their ex teammates too?
disagree with everything you said
Leinart was nothing great ever. Name one instance he has shown a glimpse of being elite. Whiz doesn’t sign the checks. Boldin wanted to be a top tier receiver and get paid like one.
Whiz is one of the best coaches in the NFL doing so much with so little. You don’t want him? Send him to SF. I’ll pick him up at the airport
by mcwagner on Sep 19, 2010 11:38 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Tough loss for you guys
I still firmly believe you’re the team to beat in the NFC West. Every team has bad games, and you guys will get past this one. Hopefully Max Hall or John Skelton turn out to be something special.
And to your point about Jason Snelling, don’t be embarrassed. He’s almost certainly the best third back in the entire league, and he ought to be the primary backup for Michael Turner. Last season in the finale against the Bucs, he popped off for 147 yards on 25 carries, so this isn’t the first time he’s done good things.
Best of luck to you in the rest of your season.
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Someone beat me to it
Last year, Snelling racked up 613 yards on 142 attempts, good for a 4.3 YPC average. He also had 259 yards receiving, with a total of 5 touchdowns.
Toler is leading the team in tackles
Followed by Lenon, then D. Washington. Not sure what my point is here, just wanted to throw it out there.
Our rushing average is currently at 6.8/carry. Very good, but skewed by the 80 yarder.
Our average pass attempt goes for 6.8 yards. Last year we had 7.1 yards/pass attempt while complaining about KW’s gimped-up no-deep-throws-ever approach. 6.8 is not that bad, but it needs to improve. Our top receivers are up from last year. Breaston is at 14.2 Yds/Rec compared to 12.9 last year. Fitz is at 12.6 compared to 11.3 last year. DA’s big arm is helping those guys, but not that much.
We are 5/21 on third downs.
The numbers seem to agree with the on-field impotence our offense has displayed. From this, it seems the run-game is actually looking really good, and that’s w/o Beanie Wells. Of course, when you’re losing a game by as much as we were against the Falcons, the run-game is next to meaningless. Hightower’s fumbling against the Rams necessitated a move to the pass, which showed with DA’s 51 attempts.
by tw3kr on Sep 20, 2010 3:29 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Good job getting stats
My takeaway from the two games and the 5 for 21 on 3rd downs is that the offensive line sucks.
Talking about the QB’s, Anderson, Leinart, Hall, some imaginary street free agent that will turn this team around, is that regardless of who’s back there, our line is not allowing the team to execute optimally. This is not an issue that will go away soon.
There are some things we can do to help (keeping TE’s and RB’s in), but the offensive success of this team is derailed by the lack of talent in the offensive line.
I think the coaching staff needs to make some changes. There still needs to be competition for jobs on the line. Personally, I’d like to see Hadnot in there, either at center or to replace Faneca. I’m not sure there’s much we can do at tackle, but if Bridges is a better option, then use him. This offensive line continuity crap is overrated if you aren’t playing your best players.
Just my thought. I don’t feel like railing on Bill Davis as others seem to have nailed that already.
by KDean75 on Sep 20, 2010 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Our line needs a muligan. Rate the 5 best players on the line, then plug them in to their best position. Until Levi Brown proves me wrong, I will continue to believe he sucks. When his contract is up, he needs to go. We’d probably get better blocking from Levi Brown (the rookie QB).
Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.
A note on our weak, talentless secondary
We’re yielding 5.5 yards/pass attempt to our opponents. Green Bay is rated at 5.8. The Steelers are allowing 5.9. The Jets, with the highly-touted pairing of Revis and Comartie? 6.7.
numbers are skewed because bradford passed 50 times
cmon guys look at the stats in context!!
And Bradford was throwing a lot of short passes which lowered his yards per attempt.
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I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Obviously...?
Everybody’s numbers are skewed. It’s week 2. Example: Considering nobody can run against the Jets, I find it impressive that they are having success passing against them.
Didnt think i'd ever say this but......
Maybe we give hall his chance to lead us to a 3 win season, get a top 3 pick in the draft and get ourselves a legit franchise qb like locker or luck(i’d prefer luck btw) and then get us an incredible corner in this deep corner class in rnd 2…. give the rookies and 2nd year players lots of reps…. anderson and leinart are shit qb’s so when kurt left we had 2 buckets of dookie to choose from…
no one wants top ten picks
u gotta pay them like at least 35 mil guaranteed! What if they fail? then ur set back another couple of years
Good point..
Although the new rookie pay scale is gonna change and ya wont have to pay a rookie who may bust the same as say peyton manning
by Flanpaw42 on Sep 20, 2010 10:54 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
After watching Locker against Nebraska
Don’t know if I’d want him here…
Luck seems like a good pick though…
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Penatlties
Have to be corrected. No question. That killed any chance we ever had…
Good news is that we get on of the perenial leaders in penalties next week (and a home game) so maybe we won’t lead the game in that category again on Sunday.
Leinart
Why bring Matt into this? Matt is dead to AZ fans, and both have moved on.
The coach and Arizona fans got exactly what they wanted and deserve….Matt out of Arizona.
Man up and deal with the consequences of “In Whis we Trust” One another note, only fools pay blind tribute to any coach..even Super Bowl winning, HOF coaches make major blunders, and a fanbase accustomed to success will call them on it. No coach is infallible, on any level.
by 1usctrojan on Sep 20, 2010 12:06 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Hey I agree, why bring Leinart into this?
On the other hand, some AZ fans were and/or are still Matt Leinart fans for some mind boggling reason. We’re not a monolithic entity. We’re fans with our own individual opinions. Mine for instance is that Troll ass hats like you should crawl back where you came from. What purpose do you have here if you’re not a Cardinals fan? Like you said, Matt is out of Arizona.
Is it a problem with play-calling or a failing by the players to execute?
Sports Illustrated had a good segment about what actually occurred during the Titans’ 99-yard drive to beat us last year. According to their offensive coordinator, Bill Davis was making all the right calls, but the Titans would get lucky with one thing or another (McFadden and Adams being matched up against anyone) or our guys would just not get the job done (see previous).
And a tipped pass being caught.
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I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Remember the Ref saying "Don't hold! Don't hold!"
Throw the damn flag you idiot!
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I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
Looking too familar
I was going to come on here and voice a page or three..However after reading just some (wish I could of or wanted to read more) I have decided to keep this short as possible. I think we have enough fans on here that pretty much hit the nail on the head. DA, yep it looks like hes not gonna do it for us. I know we had a whole heap of penalties but this just looked God awful. Really to me Hall looked alot better then DA. But I know the politics play a role ,but I wish it didn’t. Anyway we have got to stop this bleeding right away in my opinion.I would start Hall next game. At least hes got some good QB blood in him ..Hell Danny White never went to the dance but he did take Dallas to 3 NFC appearances in a row. I know Max isn’t Danny but like i said He looked pretty good to me. Id roll with Hall next game but I have a feeling were going to be subjected to a loooong season..I hope not but this is looking too familar..@YoungCardsFanatic I liked your post..Thanks
he threw 2 passes
and one was picked off, how did he look better? and if ur talking about the preseason, hall was playing with third string guys
by forget on Sep 20, 2010 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didnt see Hall in last weeks game
I didnt see Hall in last weeks game.I think I turned off the tv by then..Of course I was talking about the pre season..I agree with the third string guys. However he did throw more td passes He had more confidence..And thats a very very important factor, third string or not…You can see DA is soft..They hit him and hes crying everytime..Come on thats not gonna work! Im not saying Hall is Joe Montana.. Im Mean come on everyone has been saying put the kid in..What would you do?
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