Five Negatives From The Arizona Cardinals/Minnesota Vikings Week Five Game
by Tyler Nickel on Oct 10, 2011 6:01 AM MDT
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PrintWell, it's looking like the Arizona Cardinals really want to make a statement. They really want in on the Andrew Luck sweepstakes. They made their case yesterday, losing to the Minnesota Vikings by a score of 34-10.
The now 1-4 Vikings handled Arizona throughout the day in every phase of the game. With the Cardinals now headed into their bye week, the team has a lot to think about and even more to work on if they hope to turn this season around.
Let's take a look at five of the problems they encountered yesterday and see if the team will be able to work around them when they face the Steelers almost two weeks from now.
Tipped Passes:
Kevin Kolb had four passes (by my count, feel free to correct me) that were tipped at the line of scrimmage. One of them happened to be intercepted by Vikings CB, Asher Allen, which set up the Vikings' second score. Kolb was staring receivers down all day and the linemen were able to read his eyes with ease, so that's something that he will need to work on.
It never hurts to throw a pump fake in their every once in awhile either. Kolb should look into his arm angle and see if that is the problem. If these tipped passes become a trend, Kolb's interception rate will skyrocket.
First Quarter Woes:
Well, yesterday's game was basically wrapped up half way through the first quarter. Minnesota scored 28 of their 34 total points in the first period. In fact, they had all those points with almost three minutes to go. Timely turnovers and explosive running from Adrian Peterson helped the Vikes manhandle the Cards and they were able to gain a lead that not even they could squander.
The team is still working on getting comfortable in the offense, but turning the ball over is a killer. Special teams also came into play when Ben Graham had a couple of line drive punts that resulted in good field position for Minnesota. When the Cardinals get behind, they are forced to throw the ball more than they would like to and the lack of balance in their offense allowed Jared Allen and Brian Robison to have a field day. This game was almost over before it even started.
The Run Game
Beanie Wells was able to average 5.1 yards per carry last week against the Giants, but against the Vikings he could only rack up three yards per carry. On the other side, Adrian Peterson ate up the Cardinals defense. He ran the ball 29 times for 122 yards and three touchdowns. His average was around 4.2 yards/carry, but that comes after some late game runs that were used to eat up the clock.
Given the struggles Donovan McNabb has had this season, it would have made sense for the Cardinals to gameplan for Peterson a little better. Let an inaccurate passer beat you, not an All-Pro running back. For Wells, the line wasn't able to open up many gaps for him and as a result, his longest run of the day was a porous 9 yards. It didn't help that the offensive line had a couple of new guys mixed in this week.
A Case Of The Drops:
When your playmakers are dropping balls, it's going to be a long game. Both on offense and on defense, the Cardinals players needed some sticky glue because they were not able to hold on to anything. Rookie Rob Housler had two drops, Early Doucet had at least one and even the master of the catch, Larry Fitzgerald, had a drop in the beginning of the game.
On the defensive side, A.J. Jefferson couldn't hold on to a surefire pick six. Other defensive backs were able to get their hands on some passes that could have been possibly intercepted as well. Creating opportunities for your team by capitalizing on the opponent's mistakes is what good teams do. Arizona will need to work out those kinks first and foremost because if people can't catch, your missing a big portion of what football is about.
Injuries:
This may have been one of the worst days for injuries so far this season. Todd Heap was already out with a hamstring injury and punter Dave Zastudil (who would have helped tremendously) was out with a knee sore. During the game, the Cards lost two more starters. Guard Daryn Colledge sustained a concussion and did not exit the locker room for the second half. Even earlier in the game, safety Kerry Rhodes left the game and was promptly replaced by Rashad Johnson.
The offensive line is already in shambles and adding D'Anthony Batiste to take over at guard was even worse. There was no continuity on the front and it showed with Kolb being sacked four times and pressured throughout the game. On the back end, the loss of Kerry Rhodes could hurt. Kent Somers said the news was, "not good," via Twitter. Rhodes will undergo an MRI today and he'll be re-evaluated. There is no news as to what the injury is as of this time.
This loss was absolutely demoralizing, but what do you think, fans? What were the worst parts of this game for you? What do the Cardinals need to do in order to make this some semblance of a season?
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After a few baby steps forward, huge leap backwards.
D id anyone who watches the Cardinals not expect this game at some point during the season, no matter who it came against? I expect the Cards to bounce back and be entertaining and compete in games again…though winning is another matter. I like Kevin Kolb, his terrible days are bad, but a real improvement over last year.
I was so excited for this season, especially since we were getting to see all the old NFC east rivals in one season. While losing the first 2 in such close fashion was galling, at least it was entertaining and competative to the end.
It would irk me to no end if the NFC east swept the redbirds this season…my irrational hope is that we win at least one of those games…preferrably against the Cowgirls.
Stumper and the Juice! Best Cards backfield evar.
by OntarioCardsFan1977 on Oct 10, 2011 8:29 AM MDT reply actions
It's true, we do always have these games
But why now? Against the Vikings? In seven feet of snow playing against the on-fire Patriots I can understand but c’mon…
Coaching...
I would add coaching to this list the team was clearing not ready for this game. A prepared team doesn’t give up 28 first quarter point. I will keep it to this, there is coaching in this league doing so much more with much less talent and time to prepare. The 49ers are 4-1 with an all new coaching staff, no offseason, and Alex Smith. After reading that last line it’s really hard to make excuses for Coach Whisenhunt and crew.
the defense didnt give up 28 first quarter points...
Good ol’ kevin kolb did! How can u blame the coaching staff when kolb was getting balls tipped, being inaccurate, and being a spaz(although he was better this game)? Also, look at the niners personnel…..ok now compare it to the cardinals…that’s why they’re 4-1 haha
by forget on Oct 10, 2011 10:11 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
You can blame the coaches because....
It is their fault the line sucks and can’t protect. The fact that Levi Brown is still on this team is reason enough to fire someone. But then you have Russ Grim, great player, but can not coach. Not only has the line not improved but it has gotten worse every year he has been here. Then we get Horton. The only thing every team could do last year was pass all over the Steelers. And that is the coach we hire? Wiz needs to look elsewhere for staff, or elsewhere for a job. This can not continue, and he has to realize it starts with them. Also, Luck would just get crushed if we get him, because that means we would not address the o-line until the third round of the draft. At this point I would gladly say goodbye to Wiz and his friends he gave jobs too.
the line doesnt suck.
Russ grimm turned a bunch of misfits into a serviceable o-line, he’s a miracle worker!
by forget on Oct 10, 2011 11:10 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Pass Protection Sucks!
Our line is now only 1/2 full of fail. with College in we seem to be able to rush the ball, but our pass protection is pitiful! Miracle worker my ass, our line has been a weakness for years.
"The true test of a person's intellligence is how much they agree with you."
The line doesn't suck?
What are you watching? Levi Brown and Brandon Kieth are horrible! Not only do they not block, they don’t try to get in the way. Sendlein isn’t much better. And by saying better in no way means good. If you can’t get the back of your three step drop because there is always two guys in your face, that is an O-line problem. The line has gotten worse every year, and that would be all on Grimm and the coaches keeping players that can not perform.
Coaches
This was Kolb after the game. “Our head coach hit the nail on the head — we have to get more detail oriented,” Kolb told reporters at the Metro dome. “It starts with meetings, showing up to work on time, getting in early, getting your work done, and all the stuff a professional is supposed to do. Maybe it takes a game like this to figure that out.”
If players are showing up late, not getting their work done and conducting themselves short of professional standards, that’s a problem. A problem that comes down to the coaching staff and how they run this team. Like I have said for weeks now there is 0 accountability on this team. The head coach has done nothing to make these players accountable and only make excuses when he gets asked a question about it. Warner and Haley was the accountability on this team and the reason they did anything good.
5 negatives
5) We got on the plane.
4) We got of the plane.
3) We took the field.
2) We thought we actually had a chance.
1) They kept score.
If you don't have anything good to say about the Cards this season, you'd be correct.
by hevchv on Oct 10, 2011 9:55 AM MDT via mobile reply actions 3 recs
This season is over..
I hate to say it and be negative but its true. Our offensive play calling and preparation was disgusting for this game and all season. Whiz is a fake and I have said this all along. Warner and the play calling of Todd Haley brought us to the Bowl. Our O line needs reconstruction, our LB’s are over the hill (except Washington) and we need a real # 2 WR. The secondary will grow over time. Whiz has to get canned after this season, his play calling is beyond me, nor is it consistent. He simply just doesn’t surprise defenses and I believe we have better talent on that side of the ball than we show. Plus, why is Levi Brown still on our team?? Replay after replay this guy has no blocking bone in his body. We are a mess and its sad to watch. I know its a rebuilding year with no offseason but this it pitiful.
whiz doesnt call plays! mike miller does!
We have talent on offense? Look at our o-line, wr corps, and even our RB! They aren’t very good!
U do remember whiz took us to the playoffs twice, right? How often has that happened in this franchise’s history? If u expect this team to contend every year, sorry, u aren’t being realistic. All you can hope for is we can load up every few years and make a run(and even that is wishful thinking). The best thing for this franchise is continuity. And whiz is signed through 2013…so sorry, he’s gonna be here a little longer
by forget on Oct 10, 2011 10:19 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
haley?
. I’m so glad people like you aren’t running any of my teams. The only way this team can be an average NFL franchise is for there to be continuity. Whiz has proven he can win, he’s done it in Pitt and in AZ.
by forget on Oct 10, 2011 11:24 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Happy for Whiz.
At least he has one die hard fan, who is just pleased as punch with his coaching! How many more are out there?
he took my team to the super bowl
After decades of futility. honestly, if I were in charge, he would stay as long as he wants.
by forget on Oct 10, 2011 11:30 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
That is rich!
I can hear John McEnroe “You cannot be serious!!!!”
Wow
One super bowl loss gets him a job for life. The team has only been to one super bowl ever and doesn’t have a championship since 1947. As a paying fan that pays the coach’s, player’s, and owner’s bills I think it’s only fair to expect much more from the team and franchise. One super bowl loss in 45 super bowls and one championship in 64 years will make you happy. Those are amazingly low standards.
3 straight seasons with record over .500
And two straight division titles…he’s earned some time as HC. He’s had 3 good seasons, and 2 bad ones. That’s pretty damn good. And he knows what he’s doing, he’s won in pitt and AZ!
by forget on Oct 10, 2011 12:08 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Whiz invented peanut butter.
If you don't have anything good to say about the Cards this season, you'd be correct.
by hevchv on Oct 10, 2011 12:41 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Whiz went back in time so he could kill Hitler
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Whiz invented time.
If you don't have anything good to say about the Cards this season, you'd be correct.
by hevchv on Oct 10, 2011 12:56 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Kevin Kolb is who I thought he is...
Kevin Kolb=Scott Mitchell. What the Cards have is another Scott Mitchell on their hands. The year Dan Marino went down with a torn Achillies tendon, Mitchell played 4 games before he went down. He become the hottest free agent the next year and signed with the Lions. HE SUCKED and never played to his “greatness”. You’ll read 2-3 years from now how Kevin Kolb never fullfilled his “potential” either.
Little known fact...Scott Mitchell had a couple of pretty decent seasons
1995 in Detroit: 4338 yds, 32 TD, 12 INT (his 2nd yr in DET)
1997 in DET: 3484 yds 19 TD, 14 INT
What if Kolb’s line in 2012 looks like Mitchell’s 95 season? Oh…10-6 record as well. Would that be so bad?
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We don’t know who Kevin kolb is yet. I just don’t get how you can judge a qb after 5 games in a new system, it’s ridiculous. Maybe he blows out maybe he turns into a pro bowl qb you’re not going to know till he’s comfortable in the system n he believes his oline can block for him. The one thing I will say is mike killer isn’t helping him out with his play calling. And good god lets draft a left tackle, no way we’re picking 1st so dump the luck chat
by Bottletop86 on Oct 10, 2011 10:36 AM MDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Hey smart guy Whiz DOES CALL PLAYS!!
Miller is a joke anyway..I noted the O line problem..and of course we have talent on offense..Beanie is a legit and so is Larry, we need a solid #2 WR and Kolb will have his ups and downs until we get protection from the O line. I do expect this team to contend every year, why wouldn’t I?? This division is too weak for us not to contend. Preparation is the coaches job AS WELL as the teams but a lot of this falls heavily on Whiz.
and if u think we can contend every year
U haven’t been watching this team long enough
by forget on Oct 10, 2011 11:16 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes and for accepting it and not demanding the team to improve you are silly and will always cheer for a losing team. Owners’ only understand dollars. If losing costs them dollars they will push to win and make the changes need to win. If silly fans keep putting money in their pockets and don’t demand change they will keep losing. I have watched this team since 1988 when they came to the Valley.
they are putting money into this team.
They are trying. You can’t just run out a HC when he has a couple of down seasons.
by forget on Oct 10, 2011 12:14 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I said changes...
I said owners’ will make changes. I never said anything about spending money. Just because an owner throws money around doesn’t mean they will win. Ask the Yankees, Cowboys, and Redskins. Changes don’t just mean HC it could be GM, OC, DC, players, Scouts, and front office personnel.
they've changed the whole culture of this franchise
They actually spend money now! I just think it is silly to get rid of the only winner you’ve had after only a couple of bad seasons
by forget on Oct 10, 2011 12:43 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
It's going to happen.
Whiz is fading away—— (pan to sunset)
BidWills are concerned about $$$ though.
The club, ring of honor, and suites are almost empty every game. Bidwells would make a buttload of extra $$$ between ticket sales and concession sales for the premium seats.
I have always thought Whiz would have 2 years with Kolb, but the total lack of improvement week to week is pretty troubling. If the team still plays like crap in games 14, 15, 16 Whiz may be in trouble.
by Drullin'OverDaCards on Oct 10, 2011 3:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Unfair character assassination
Cardinals fans cannot be called fickle if they keep demanding the same thing over and over.
What I hear is “Give us a coach that can mold talent into a winning team so we can cheer!”
Pretty simple and very consistant, not fickle at all.
Really? 14 months ago Whis was widely considered a genius around here.
Fans on this site were gushing with awe and wonder at the marvel that is Ken Whisenhunt. Now it’s almost 100% turn around. That is fickle.
Don't think so.
The Leinart thing was still fresh and there was hot debate for and against Whiz. The anti-Whiz movement has increased with his failure to produce a winning product.
Whiz can no longer hide behind the achievments of Warner and he now stands on his own.
Going with had here
The only consistent complaints (except for the crazy ones) have been OT and OLB.
Who me?
I didn’t realize I was all alone, standing out in the middle of the street, in my underware, shouting and shaking my fist at Whiz.
It must have been the OE 40s I was pounding.
You're confused
We were talking about how people weren’t consistently complaining about Whiz last year.
Negatives
1) Kolb was mismanaged, while McNabb was managed.
2) Wells was mismanaged while A. Peterson was managed.
3) Slow motion O – Even the Cardinals no huddle plays took 26-28 seconds to develop.
4) Poorly prepared Offense (10 points + 3 INTs + panic)
5) Poorly prepared Defense (34 points)
your right!
im glad i wasnt the only person yelling at the tv, come on! hurry up and run the play before the defence gets set!! no huddle means HURRY UP[!!!
watching the game was a negative for me
Good thing about next week though we can’t lose lol
lets pray
lets pray that Indy,miami, st lou get a win so we could have a chance at mr luck. I am not a fan of losing but forr this guy and the way the season is going i could suck it up this year. Andrew Luck, line men, and some LB next year draft and pick up a #2 WR free agent and go get us a offensive cordinator
Now when you look back to free agency....
Whiz does make play calls. He makes the final decision on just about every play. We need a coach like brings emotion. Someone who runs over to the player and chews them out for missing their assignment. We need Brian Billick or Jon Gruden to turn this team around. We need to build our defense and get some pass rushers. What is the point of blitzing if we cant get to the quarterback. The only spot on our defense that is strong is middle linebacker. We need to move back to 4-3 defense, since our outside linebackers are complete crap. Now when you look back to free agency….who did they grab that is really making an impact….NOBODY! Everyone saying we made a big splash…my ass!
Tom Landry had a pretty good run as a head coach. You never saw him running around yelling at players.
A hot head coach isn’t going to fix things on personality.
We suck
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Whew!
I’ve removed myself from being a supporter of “The Whiz Kids” and I feel so much lighter, not being included in “We”.
Now I am free to be just a “Fan of Football”
To give some credence to the "lack of creativity" in offensive play-calling:
from Rotoworld:
CB Chris Cook said the Vikings knew the Cardinals passing plays before the snap Sunday.
Larry Fitzgerald was harassed by press coverage and Cover-2 all day long. “They had tendencies,” Cook said. “When they moved [Fitzgerald] inside, we were still going to put our hands on them regardless. We had somebody to jam him every time. We knew what they was doing. A lot of their stuff, we were calling it out before they did it.” The Cardinals have the bye week to get some creativity in their passing game. We’re not worried about Fitz.
Faith Focus Finish
by b0rd3rline on Oct 10, 2011 11:20 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
*facedesk*
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Only 5 Negatives? I Counted Many More!
Tyler, you’re being too kind to this team! I’m sure ‘m not the only one who counted more than five negatives as to how this team performed yesterday! Of course, you’ve already stated the obvious. But, to me, this team did not show up for this game because of possible overconfidence? They thought they could just show up and the Vikings will just lay down and take the 0-5 record? The defense was horrific and Ray Horton did not plan for Adrian Peterson. Was he on our planet last year when Peterson torched the run game? And, please, enough with the stuff about wanting to be like the Steelers. This team needs to find its own identity and play with some heart and smarts! Kolb looked like a scared little girl in the pocket for the past three games! Is this guy a real QB, or just a poser?
Perception is Reality
The Cardinals are the Keystone Cops. (I know, I’m kinda old.)
I didn't support the idea of bringing Kolb in.
I said we might as well stick with Skelton. At least he knew the offense. I was obviously vetoed and they brought him in. I tried to then support him but that is about as hard as believing in Whiz at this point. I won’t stop being a fan, but reality needs to be in the forefront now. Whiz rode Kurt and parlayed that into a contact extension. WE REALLY DO SUCK right now.
If you don't have anything good to say about the Cards this season, you'd be correct.
by hevchv on Oct 10, 2011 11:40 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Would a 1-5 start be enough to bring in the younger players,
Or are gonna hold out hope we can win 10 straight to go 11-5. Can Acho and O’Scho really be worse than Joey " I got y’all to give me all this money when the other 31 teams knew I wad washed up" Porter? They need experience to get experience. Let them play. The season is all but over. More of a formality at this point.
If you don't have anything good to say about the Cards this season, you'd be correct.
by hevchv on Oct 10, 2011 12:16 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Forget..
your comments make no sense..I’m glad your happy with a superbowl loss and 2 division titles in the weakest division in football..now we are 1-4 with no sign of getting any better..please, tell me what you think our problem is and how we should fix it since your on Wiz’s nuts for no reason..?
ok, here we go...
The first problem plaguing this team is kevin kolb. He isnt good, and will never be good. He’s inaccurate, refuses to stay in the pocket, and just has poor pocket awareness. He should shoulder 75% of the blame for our 4 losses.
The second problem is our pass rush. Most of our problems on defense would go away if we had some people who could get to the QB. We haven’t been able to address this through the draft, and until we do, we will not have a good defense.
Those are just the main problems. We could easily be 8-8 if we addressed those issues. However, to be a great team, we need upgrades all over the field. Our safeties stink, we lack a #2 WR, and we could use an upgrade on our o-line.
I don’t believe that firing whiz would clear up any of these issues. One person i would think about firing is rod graves. He’s the one making most of these personnel decisions. But really, we could get through this without firing anyone. I trust that the cards will address their OLB problem early in round 1. Unless we get the #1 pick of course, then we will pick Luck and our Kolb problem will be solved.
The thing that you guys are downplaying is the importance of a good QB. Warner was amazing, and led us to some great seasons. We have replaced him with DA and KK…they aren’t near his caliber. Replace Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, or Aaron Rodgers with DA or KK and they’ll be horrible, just like us. We need time to rebuild this team.
The thing i said earlier about how whiz should stay forever was stupid to say, i exaggerated a little bit. But I believe that since he had 3 solid seasons, he has built up some good will. He shouldnt be fired after only 2 bad seasons, he deserves 3 or 4.
by forget on Oct 10, 2011 2:47 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
But his three good season were with Warner
That had nothing to do with Wiz. Oh, and we had Q and Breston making great catches. Wiz has brought in bad coaches, keeps players that no other team would pay the league min. And drafting Luck will not do anything because, he wont have time to make his reads either. How do we need time to build the team? If these guys were any good at it we would still have a few key players with our new ones that would have given us a top level defense. Also, or safeties stink? Do you watch games or understand how football works? We have maybe the best safety duo in the league. Please get smarter if you are going to comment on everything. You only make a fool of yourself.
you just said we have one of the best safety duos in the league.
U the fool.
And u are knocking whiz because he has only been able to win with great players…a team can’t win without great players! You silly goose. Does pittsburgh win without ben and hines ward? Does indy win without manning and dallas clark? Does GB win without rodgers and greg jennings? The answer is no buddy.
by forget on Oct 10, 2011 4:10 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Those are all good points..
and I agree with not dumping Whiz at this time..a few more games like this past week and he will be looked at though..I just don’t know how much longer this can go on before you start looking at the staff. Kolb is a shaky QB and he will only be good if we address our O line which has been the same issue for years. He’s naturally a pocket QB and accurate with a pretty good arm.. but he makes bad decisions, those should go away in time if the line issue is ever addressed. He was the best option this offseason, period. Guess we’ll just see how these next few games go. Hope we can turn it around.
If you watch Kolb..
almost all of his bad decisions are made when he’s mobile..with our line that’s what, within 1 to 1 1/2 seconds?..if the guy had time to stand in the pocket he would be a pretty good QB..that’s just my opinion on watching the dude..
I do watch Kolb.
I watch him bail out of the pocket while it’s holding. I watch him look at half of the field or lock onto one receiver when he does stay in the pocket. Kolb used his legs a lot in college. To say he is a natural pocket quarterback is inaccurate. His natural tendency is to run. He runs too early, before protection breaks down, into defenders or into a position where he has no protection from pass rushers.
Our tackles aren’t very good. They both need to be upgraded. Any top tier pass rusher is going to make them look foolish. Kolb isn’t doing them any favors by running into trouble when they do hold up in protection. He makes bad decisions but they are not all while on the run. Those are just the most obvious and happen more often then they should.
True
What I guess I was trying to say is he would be a good QB if he would use the pocket correctly, because I feel has has the tools to get us the W’s we need to contend. He will never be elite, but he could be well above average. Regardless, our whole team needs help on both sides of the ball.
60% career completion percentage.
About baseline for a decent quarterback. After this week’s performance he has dipped below that for the season.
His timing has been awful. A lot of throws behind the receiver all season. Especially when they are crossing from left to right.
his % is not important to me
He misses some throws, and he almost never puts the ball in the right spot for the receiver to catch it in stride. I know what I see, and what I see is a skittish, erratic quarterback.
by forget on Oct 10, 2011 9:10 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
he almost never puts the ball in the right spot for the receiver to catch it in stride
That was my point. It’s not that he can’t get the ball there. It’s not an issue of something mechanical in his throwing motion. It’s his timing. It’s him not seeing and processing what he sees quickly enough. (His not seeing much of what is going on is another issue entirely.) Skittish and erratic are good adjectives to hang on Kolb.
His timing should improve as he gets more time in the system with the receivers
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ITS NOT KOLB...
HE HASNT HAD THE TIME TO LEARN THE SYSTEM. HE NEEDS MORE TIME TO LEARN IT BUT AN O-LINE THAT CAN GIVE HIM SOME PROTECTION WOULD BE NICE.
WHERE ARE THE TURTLES!!!!
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The First Quarter
The debacle the Cardinals suffered in Minnesota is precisely what should have befallen the Giants when they came to Arizona. The defense dominated the early part of that game but the offense was too inept to put it out of reach. This week they couldn’t come back passing against the weakest secondary they will face all season. A 50% completion rate against the mess the Vikings had on the field is disgraceful. Kolb needs to collate his s*** double time.
I've
been trying to come up with something positive about this game and team, but I have nothing.
This was one of the more embarrassing Card losses. This team is lacking good coaching, good personnel, and apparently, motivation.
Kolb refuses to step up into the pocket. The O-line is substandard, the backup right guard can’t play left guard. WTF is that? Why is he on the team then? The starting #2 WR has 12 catches in 5 games.
Neither safety has cover skills and they are often making major mistakes in coverage. Now the starting FS is out for a while. I haven’t decided if that’s a good or bad thing.
There is zero outside pass rush. Haggans has actually supplied some pressure. Porter has supplied, scheme knowledge? Something? Whatever it is, it’s not physical. The team has two young OLB’s that might not be well versed in the system, but have “potential”. Combined they’ve played 37 snaps the last 2 games. 37.
The two leading tacklers on the team are the starting CB’s.
There are questions at QB as to whether Kolb is the right player or starter for this team. There are questions as to whether this team has the right personnel for the 3-4 defense. These two questions have been valid for the last 2 years and nothing has been done to address either. I don’t care that the Cards gave up DRC, he wouldn’t have made a difference. With a team with such a glaring lack of talent, losing the 2nd round pick was a killer. An absolute killer.
I am a Cards fan and have been one since they moved to the Valley, but I hate this team right now.
by KDean75 on Oct 10, 2011 3:03 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Good points..
There are holes to be filled all around our team. I feel as if our talent is good enough to compete though. Play schemes and coaching I feel is what is lacking. Look around the league, teams are getting it done with sub par guys and a lot of it is the locker room believing in their coach, staff and the playbook..The Viking are not that good, and to score 28 points on us in 1 quarter is inexcusable. For our team to look that bad I would say majority of it is preparation. We were flat and unmotivated until we were getting embarrassed. Don’t get me wrong though, players still need to step up and do their job. I just feel it needs to be the staff that gets these guys ready to go for Sundays.
#6:
Turning the boards into a cesspit of self-loathing, denial, and bitterness… again…
by tw3kr on Oct 10, 2011 5:10 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm feeling tired...
….it’s cold in here, my body feels numb, I’m just going to close my eyes for a few seconds………
by CardsRepInChile on Oct 11, 2011 10:10 AM MDT reply actions
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