Defending Kevin Kolb, Part 2: Comparisons To Other Traded QBs

I was literally just thinking of looking at Kolb’s stats in his first year compared to other Quarterbacks, but you beat me to the punch.
I do see a definite trend between the three Matt’s you’ve listed, and hopefully Kolb can continue that trend!
Obviously, Shaub would appear to have the best stats, due to his completion %, but i am comforted by the fact that all of the Quarterbacks had close to 1:1 ratio for TDs to INTs.
I’m sure you will admit that the stats don’t tell the whole story, but it does show that Kolb could very well improve to a Pro-Bowl calibre player.

That is part of why I wanted to trade for Orton instead, since I thought that he would be able to learn the offense faster due to how much more experience he had.

My worries with Kolb were about how quickly he could learn the offense, and how much we would have to give up to him. Both of those hurt, and Kolb hasn’t played as well as he should be right now, but I still believe he can be good.

Insulting the person is out of place here. All are welcome to post their thoughts — erroneous or not — and we should welcome it. Do not attack the people posting. That is what gives sites and users bad names.

I’ve said for over two years now… Whiz is a problem calling plays… need a good offensive coordinator. Yes, we have skill/experience issues at QB but even in Warner’s last year there was play calling issues. Whiz wants his hands on too much and it will only work when you have an elite QB that can overcome bad play calling.

Well done. We really needed some sense of optimism and a glimmer of hope around here (even if it had to come from a fan of a team we all hate).

Were any of them 0-4 when they had a chance to drive their team down the field for the game winning score? This is what you dont understand as another teams fan and not a Cardinal fan. Last Sunday was VINTAGE Cardinal football. All the hardcore fans here had a bad feeling at halftime and knew it was no time to celebrate. This team is doomed no matter who plays for them

 I like it and it shed some light on the Kolb thing for me. I felt that ’11 would be a learning curve for any QB we got and ’12 would be the time they broke out. But, I did not know the stats of the three Matts and how they compare to Kolb. Thanks.

 I did not want to trade DRC. DRC & Peterson would have developed into a great tandom for us for 10 years. Now, DRC’s career is on the decline as a nickle. Unless Philly trades one of the three away, but they wont, becouse they need all three to beat QB’s like Brady, Rodgers & Payton. Plus teams like the Steelers and Chargers.
 The problem with the Eagles plan is 3 Pro-Bowl corners wont help them at all against a team playing like the 49ers. IF… they make the playoffs, they will most likely travel to the west coast and play SF. So they wont even see the Packers in the post season.

He is not playing well but there are many things wrong with this team. I haven’t given up on Kolb just yet, I was already cautiously optimistic about his first season here when we got him so not really surprised. There are things that Kolb needs to get better at (footwork, stepping up in the pocket, throwing to receivers in stride, getting the ball out quicker, avoid negative yardage plays, fumbling, reading the defense (especially blitz so you can hot route….)) just off the top of my head. But with how bad the line is it compounds a lot of smaller details into bigger problems.

We also don’t have any good receivers besides Fitz. One thing that really makes me angry is the inability to get Fitz the ball. I know our other receivers aren’t the best but with how much we are paying that man I want more catches. He can dominate games, just let him do his thing out there!

We can not expect Kolb to be the next Kurt Warner in his first year, with no offseason, sorry but it doesn’t work that way, we have more issues than Kolb; the comparisons are fair, and we don’t know yet if he is going to reach that level… as for the hate toward the Steelers, I don’t know why is so difficult to get, of course I hate the Steelers, they beat us in the most important game, they denied us of winning the title, if I were a Patriots fan I would hate Eli Manning and the Giants… and I hate Mike Tomlin, I want Whisenhunt and Grimm to prove the Rooneys wrong, that they made the wrong choice (maybe they didn’t of course).

…his “gifts” remind fans of Bubby Brister. He’s basically the same guy.

whatever year the coaches and FO decide to get NFL caliber tackles.

Kolb has had to learn an entirely new offensive system this season, one that is completely different than the one he spent every day learning for the past 4 years. I have read time and time again that Whiz’s offensive system is one of the most complicated and difficult in the NFL.

We are asking Kolb to master this system without an offseason, with a shortened training camp, without OTAs, etc. We as fans, need to give him a full offseason before we say he is a bad QB, or that he is a bust.

THe analogy is this:

Let’s say you have a job, and every day for the last 4 years you have learned everything about your company, product, and industry that you can.

All of a sudden, you leave your job and go to another company. You are asked to learn a new companies methods, policies, procedures, products, etc.

Do you think you would be able to master this new company and job overnight? Because that is what a lot of people are expecting Kolb to do.

I have said from day 1 that I was against this trade. However, trading for Kolb allowed us to keep Fitz, and I want to see what Kolb can do with a full offseason under his belt. If he still looks bad next year, then we can say it was a mistake. Until he is given a fair shake, we need to continue to support our team and do our best to stay positive, and hope the team and FO do the right things to move towards putting a more competitive team on the field.

There is a reason why none of us run or coach an NFL team by the way…

Is how similar Kolb’s numbers are to Matt Cassel’s first year in KC if you project what Kolbs numbers would be for 16 games. And that is having a far worse run game and a far worst O-line.
That is a good indication that Kolb will probably be better than Cassel.