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Cardinals vs. Eagles: Five Negatives From The 21-17 Win

The Arizona Cardinals broke their 11-game road losing streak yesterday with an unlikely win over the Philadelphia Eagles. The defense played with a new passion, while Larry Fitzgerald and the offense were able to put together a 4th quarter comeback that now has them at 3-6 on the season.

 For the most part, the Cards played rather well against the Eagles. They limited their effectiveness on offense by keeping LeSean McCoy and Michael Vick contained and they scored just enough points to win the game. However,there were still some mishaps during the match. Let's take a look at five that I have picked out and see how they affected the game. 

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Kicker 'Feelying' The Pressure:

Jay Feely missed two field goals in the beginning of the game, which would have helped the Cardinals to take a somewhat comfortable 6-0 lead in the first quarter. The first kick was missed from 35 yards out, while the second was a bit further at 43 yards. Feely is now 8-13 on field goal attempts for the season.

Three point attempts are usually not good enough to beat explosive offenses, but missing those attempts entirely can be deadly. The Cardinals were luckily able to overcome those misses with big defensive stops, but Feely needs to start making these kicks. 

Beanie Wells:

Beanie looks like he is still hampered with his knee injury, as he was only able to tote the ball for 62 yards on 23 carries, an average of 2.7 yards per carry. Against one of the worst rushing defenses in the NFL, one would figure that Beanie would have been able to do more damage against the Eagles. On many plays, he was lucky to get back to the line of scrimmage. 

That marks two weeks in a row that Beanie has faced off against a porous rushing defense and not been able to capitalize. He struggles making cuts that he normally would make and getting around the edge. Health is obviously the biggest factor in his slump, but he needs to keep playing aggressively due to the lack of talent behind him at the running back position. 

Offensive Line:

In what seems to be one of the negatives every week, the offensive line was abused by the opposing defense yet again. They allowed starting quarterback John Skelton to be sacked four times on the day, along with numerous pressures that flushed him from the pocket. 

Confusion and disarray is what sinks their chances of containing the defense more than anything. For example, a huge assignment was blown when Eagles DT Derek Landri was able to invade the Cardinals' backfield untouched by any member of the offensive line, pushing John Skelton to the ground for a sack. Whether or not they have the necessary skill is up for debate, but they at least need to get their acts together in terms of who they should be blocking. 

Killer Penalties:

Penalties yet again made this game closer than it should have been. The Cardinals tallied up seven penalties for 66 yards. This is not as many as they have racked up in the past, but the flags often came in big situations. For example, Richard Marshall was called for a defensive holding after Adrian Wilson picked off a Michael Vick pass in the end zone. From that, the Eagles went on to score a touchdown. 

Arizona has all too often become their own worst enemy. Penalties kill drives and allow opponents to continue theirs. It's just another thing that this team really needs to improve upon. 

John Skelton:

Now it's time for some contention. I will say this once and once only: there is NO quarterback controversy. Kevin Kolb will be the starter when he is healthy again. Not only was he brought in to be the QB of the future, but Skelton honestly did not play all that well against Philly. 

He completed just over 50% of his passes, completing 21 of his 40 attempts through the air. He was consistently overthrowing wide receivers throughout the game, especially in the first half. He had two interceptions on the game, but honestly, he should have had more if it weren't for some luck. Larry Fitzgerald made two catches off of already tipped balls and he officially receives the title of 'Skelton's Savior'. Outside of the second half of the fourth quarter, Skelton looked no better than a competent backup quarterback. The two interceptions he threw were straight to the opposing cornerbacks. 

Can we rely upon that fourth quarter magic every week? My guess would be no. Skelton is much better than Tim Tebow, but I get a similar vibe when I watch the two. They both make numerous errors on the field, but they find ways to win games. The difference is that the Broncos don't have a reliable option outside of Tebow, whereas the Cardinals do. We'll see how it all pans out once Kolb is healthy again. 

What do you think, fans? I am ready to hear your disagreements with my Skelton assessment, but that's just the way I feel. What can the Cardinals continue to improve upon to keep winning? 

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The Skelton vs. Kolb Debate

I agree with those bad picks and some bad reads / overthrown balls, but I will see, for the technical aspects he’s lacking – his confidence, poise and drive to win are clear and powerful. I think he very well could be the long-term Cards solution, but it’s still early in the young man’s career. I think we did invest in Kolb because the FO believes he can be something special, and I was with them, even through the losses (although I wish we would’ve held off on so much money / many years). I am tired of seeing him out there looking uncomfortable but yes, the Cards need to see what we have in Kolb when he is 100%, and have an off-season open competition. But I will say, I feel more comfortable with Skelton at this point vs. the 49ers than I do with Kolb back there….

by CardsRepInChile on Nov 14, 2011 6:01 AM MST reply actions  

Debate

I think that if either of these quarterbacks had the chance to play every game for the rest of this season as starter and through preseason next year, Skelton would be the better option.

by don f on Nov 14, 2011 7:09 AM MST up reply actions  

I could agree with you but...

as much as some of the fans don’t like it, football is a business, and our company, our team, the Cards, made a call on Kolb whether we like it or not. They gave up a player, a high draft pick, and signed the guy…. signed him to too much money to warm the bench. We need to see if he’s going to be the guy or not, if not, in the long-term, that’s ok, but with the experience he’s had it’s too early to call it and we need to see more.

by CardsRepInChile on Nov 14, 2011 7:53 AM MST up reply actions  

No business that stays around,

keeps a product that nobody wants.

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by INSOMAN1ATIC on Nov 14, 2011 5:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Well let's just say a bad product,

enough bad products, and it ends with the B word.

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by INSOMAN1ATIC on Nov 14, 2011 5:58 PM MST up reply actions  

I know you're big on Skelton

and i love the kid, i dunno, his stats are nevery great…. but he wins. i really hope we keep him around long enough to be our guy if he keeps maturing as it looks like he is, so i agree, skelton’s a stud, what i disagree with is completely giving up on kolb and calling him a “bad product”. You can feel that way, and maybe you’re right that he shouldn’t really be taking the helm until he’s comfortable with the offense but i absolutely believe he needs more reps and i want to watch him after the off-season.

i mean honestly, if kolb woulda had the whole off-season and had all the plays down and was in command of the offense, you don’t think he woulda walked away with any of those wins at the beginning of the season? we coulda easily been 4-2 to start the season………. would you be hating on kolb this much then?

by CardsRepInChile on Nov 14, 2011 7:28 PM MST up reply actions  

All I know is Skelton got the ball near Fitz,

and instead of being intercepted we got to see Fitz be Ftiz against a very formidable Eagles secondary, and instead of us knowing Larry is a superstar despite looking average, tell me he did not look like a superstar against Philly.

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by INSOMAN1ATIC on Nov 14, 2011 10:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Skelton has the team in a winning rhythm and playing entertaining football with the spotlight on Fitz. Two wins under his watch should earn him another start. Kolb needs to get schooled anyway, he has not led or inspired nor has he illuminated Fitz.

If I’m Whiz I’d simply say: “We will continue with what’s been working. Kevin is improving and his rehab is coming along fine. He will be ready when called upon. It is best to give his condition the maximum amount of time to heal completely.”

The 49ers Defense would love to have Kolb start, they enjoy meeting QB’s in the backfield. Especially ones with dainty feet.

by AZ retiree on Nov 14, 2011 8:56 AM MST reply actions  

Stop talking about how much you love the 49ers

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by JoeCB1991 on Nov 14, 2011 10:02 AM MST up reply actions  

Say what you want about the whole Skelton vs Kolb debate.

But I do not agree that Skelton’s performance should be listed as 1 of the 5 negatives from this week. If anything it should be a positive. I could see why you maybe would just see it as ok, but surely not negative.

He finishes with 315 yards(7.9 y/a), 3td, 2 picks, and no fumbles lost against a defense that hasn’t given up 300 yards to a QB yet and that’s a negative? Jesus what kind of standards are you holding to a 2nd year player whos only played in 7 games?

by Will Smith on Nov 14, 2011 10:40 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

When you look at his numbers and those only, it looks like he played a decent enough game. The problem is that all of those numbers came in the fourth quarter, outside of one TD and both of his INTs. He played a great 4th, but the way he played in the first 3 quarters shows his inconsistencies and the Cards were lucky to be coming into the 4th not down by 3 TDs.

by Tyler Nickel on Nov 14, 2011 10:56 AM MST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Okay

And I agree. He was inconsistent, and made mistakes. He played a decent game, but I wouldn’t consider it a negative. He didn’t do anything to make the cards loose, and scored when needed to score. Yes the defense basically won the game, but the offence wasn’t bad.

its not like we couldn’t score, and if you look at the grand scheme of things it was enough to win. Also considering Beanie had a bad game against a D that sucks against the run all but makes Skelton’s job harder.

IMO I can see when you wouldn’t put him on the positive list because there are plenty of arguments against it. But that does not mean its a negative. I would put his performance on the ‘okay’ list.

by Will Smith on Nov 14, 2011 11:05 AM MST up reply actions  

He did give them 10 points...lol

I think it’s possible for a performance to be a positive and a negative. Everything’s not always black and white

by forget on Nov 14, 2011 11:14 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

lol

If a performance was both positive and negative, then wouldn’t it be just neutral? From a logical stand point that is.

by Will Smith on Nov 14, 2011 11:19 AM MST up reply actions  

Haha well, I would say that skeltons performance was pretty 'meh'

So that would be neutral, right? There are positives and negatives to everything. Nothing is all good or all bad. There is a cost for everything… Since u wanna get ‘logical’ about it :)

by forget on Nov 14, 2011 11:45 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

He's not going to be the guy.

But he is better than kolb at this point. The thing about Skelton is that he just has a certain swagger about him. After every pick, he drives us down the field for a score. Seeing him respond to adversity like that is just fun to watch. And he just makes plays at the end of games. I rather watch Skelton play the rest of the season, but unfortunately we invested a lot into kolb, so we have to give him every chance to succeed.

by forget on Nov 14, 2011 11:12 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Plus

If you wanna talk quarters, Skelton played fine in the first half.

Q1: 4 drives. 2 of them punts. 1 drive was 8 plays for 45 yds to result in a FG miss, and other drive was 6 plays 49 yards and another FG miss.
Those 2 long drives alone: 94 yds.

Q2: 3 drives. 1 punt. 1 was the pick 6, and the last 1 was 10 plays, 84 yds and a TD.

So that makes 178 yds 1 td 1 int from the long drive alone. That’s more than half his total yards in the first half.

Yeah he was great in 4th quarter, but in the first he ran the offence well enough to get at least 6 points or more on the board if Feely didn’t miss the easy kicks.

All I’m saying is it wasn’t all bad. Wasn’t Tom Brady, and I’m not saying he was amazing, just not bad

by Will Smith on Nov 14, 2011 11:18 AM MST up reply actions  

"The problem is that all of those numbers came in the 4th quarter....."

Seroiusly? I think that statement is exactly why we WANT Skelton to be the starter. Skelton’s best performance comes in the 4th quarter. Isn’t that when you need your QB to be the most effective?

by billydacardsfan on Nov 14, 2011 2:38 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree that 4th quarter comebacks is absolutely important

Skeleton shows that he can finish. Kolb has yet to show that

by CanadianCard on Nov 14, 2011 3:57 PM MST up reply actions  

"It don't make no sense!"

Whiz’s script is dog-eared and ragged. Pages are missing and out of order. His supporters are trying to hold it together for him and praise his genius. I am not buying this whole leadership of the HC at all. He looks more baffled after a win than anybody.

The “In Whiz we trust” bunch will poo-poo any notion of Skelton success in favor of Kolb failure. They want to promote the idea that the Cards don’t have good enough players for Kolb and Whiz to win. This sets up the HC to keep his position while Kolb prepares for the future.

Problem is, this is a “What have you done lately?” league.

by AZ retiree on Nov 14, 2011 11:09 AM MST up reply actions  

Lets just say that Skelton's inconsistency was a negative and not Skelton's overall performance

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by JoeCB1991 on Nov 14, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

agree – maybe not a positive but played well enough to get us the win with a game-winning drive. definitely doesn’t go on my negative list…..

by CardsRepInChile on Nov 14, 2011 7:30 PM MST up reply actions  

There isnt a QB controversy

But there is definitely a quarterback situation. The coaches are in a tough spot

by forget on Nov 14, 2011 11:05 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

I'll make the decision then!

Skelton starts until he stumbles, Kolb will be the undesignated backup (to avoid hurt feelings and embarrassment to the FO).

by AZ retiree on Nov 14, 2011 11:42 AM MST up reply actions  

Hmm

But there are about 60 million reasons why you should start kolb, it’s a tough situation

by forget on Nov 14, 2011 11:47 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

To many what ifs...

What if Fitz wasnt able to bring in those lucky bounces? What if the D had played this well at the beginning of the year? We wouldnt even be having the discussion. Skelton got a few breaks, which I know are apart of the game. He was also put into a bad situation on the pick six. Terrible flag on the return that pinned them deep. Wiz should know better than to call that play so close to the end zone. My only argument with your comment Tyler is the play of Beanie. The last 2 weeks were tough because the defense was stacking the box. Beanie did look a lot fresher this game than he did last week. The Eagles dared the Cards to throw the ball and have Skelton beat them and he did. Luckily. Poor throws from Skelton cost us at least 2 TDs. One to Fitz where he was wide open down the sideline and the other to Taylor, all alone over the middle. Skelton threw behind him and then ’ole reliable missed the field goal.
The penalties were bogus. A team like the Pats, Saints or Packers dont get those flags.

by ccnellie on Nov 14, 2011 12:08 PM MST reply actions  

Couple of 5 yard losses when he tried to bounce it outside made Beanie's day look worse than it really was

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by JoeCB1991 on Nov 14, 2011 1:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Good point

Kind of hard to go forward when they are bringing the house. I have no doubt that if we had a good line Beanie would be one of the leading rushers in the NFL. Oh i hope they get a good lineman or 2 in the draft. Not that they will play until year 2 or 3 because Wiz doesnt play rookies unless he has no choice.

by ccnellie on Nov 16, 2011 9:58 AM MST up reply actions  

What if's work two ways,

I think any Cardinals fans will tell you those catches Fitz made are exactly why Fitz is Fitz. Skelton is resilient Kolb is not.

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by INSOMAN1ATIC on Nov 14, 2011 5:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Sorry but no.

The one TD, the DB broke to early. Someone like Woodson or Revis takes that one to the house. They dont miss that pick. Same with the other in the middle. Woodson, baily, Revis make that pick or at least knock it to the ground. That is what makes them special. Those are lucky bounces that went to Fitz . He had nothing to do with them other than bad execution on the DB. I’ll take it though. The diving catch at the goal line. The over the head grab down the side lines for 40, the TD grab against the Rams…those are the plays that make Fitz Fitz.

by ccnellie on Nov 16, 2011 10:05 AM MST up reply actions  

I really didn't think Beanie looked that bad this week.....

I think the line had a below average blocking game and we are still missing Sherman. I saw Beanie dragging piles and ran at least 1 player over so he looked his usual self to me…. Kept meeting people in the backfield or couldn’t get outside / dancing in backfield. IDK that is just what I saw.

by Airwave on Nov 14, 2011 3:34 PM MST reply actions  

Same

I can’t level sweeping accusations at Maui’a or any part of the offensive line in particular. I think opposing defenses, no matter how poor their reputation, have opted to clamp down on the run with Skelton in there.

by tw3kr on Nov 15, 2011 12:30 AM MST up reply actions  

Let's talk about Jay Feely being the worst kicker currently employed in the NFL

He’s 33rd in the league on field goal % and 31st at turning kick-offs into touchbacks.

Sorry man, it’s time to go.

by tw3kr on Nov 15, 2011 12:35 AM MST reply actions  

Damn

those are some serious stats. What happened to the 2010 Jay Feely????

by CardsRepInChile on Nov 15, 2011 4:50 AM MST up reply actions  

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