Arizona Cardinals/San Francisco 49ers Postgame Analysis And Quotes
The Arizona Cardinals headed out West to take on the stingy D of the San Francisco 49ers. A two game win streak was on the line for the birds. And after it was all said and done, the Cards used both John Skelton and Richard Bartel. Neither was overly effective, but then again, the entire offense struggled. Combined with five turnovers on both special teams and offense, and the valiant first half by the defense was for naught.
Hit the jump to read what the team had to say after today's loss.
Let's start with the head coach. Coach Whisenhunt himself pointed out the flaws on the offensive side of the ball, asking, "How do you win a game with five turnovers in an opposing team's stadium?"
That's an excellent question. Ball security from the run aspect of the offense hasn't been questionable, but Beanie Wells dropped the ball today. Patrick Peterson also lost the ball returning a punt.
Whisenhunt had this to say about his 2nd year QB. "John played like a rookie today. He's a young football player, and he's going to have his ups and downs."
The QB had this to say about his play, which consisted of 6/19 and 3 interceptions. "It was one of those days."
The offense was quick to share the blame though, with C Lyle Sendlein saying, "It was all of us."
And Larry Fitzgerald who had one touchdown on the day, lamented, "The loss was disheartening after two straight wins."
To add injury to insult, last year first round pick Dan Williams is likely done for the season after breaking his arm. This game was never close, as San Fran's D stifled the group all day. Looking forward, the Cardinals head out to St. Louis to visit the Rams. After today, the offense has a lot to fix.
And based upon that, one final quote from the head coach. "If we can get our offense to play at the level of our defense, we will be OK."
See everyone next week Sunday for the Rams. And Happy Thanksgiving!
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We have our guy in Ray Horton,
but now it’s time to dump the placeholder that is Mike Miller
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Agreed
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Skelton's play was mind boggling bad...
I don’t know if it was the rain, big game jitters, hurt hand, or what but how pathetic was that? I am a Skelton fan and expect big things from him as he progresses but this was bad. That said… who was calling the plays today? The play calling was almost as bad as Skelton’s performance. Run, pass, pass. Pass, pass, pass. Run, pass pass. Ridiculous!
Well
The 49ers’ defense is pretty good.
So there’s that.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Nov 21, 2011 2:13 AM MST up reply actions
It looked like you guys dominated us without doing anything complex either
Just running basic rush four and drop seven, and it worked to perfection.
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He got tested against an elite defense,
and failed. However if I’m the FO I tell Whiz to see how much he can develop him through this season, because if he can prove better than Kolb we can minimize our losses on Kolb’s deal sooner rather than later.
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What?
In what world does this make sense? Kolb has guaranteed money and not finding out if he could play would be a horrible financial decision Wouldn’t it be logical to start a healthy Kevin Kolb to get more tape on him. The increase reps will likely lead increase play. With out the playing time the coaching staff will still have major questions about Kolb next year making the QB decision even harder to make. I don’t care what player you like or not the best thing for the organization is continuing to play Kevin Kolb to clear up questions and help the evaluation for next year.
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by Steel34D on Nov 20, 2011 10:20 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
How does it not make sense?
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by INSOMAN1ATIC on Nov 20, 2011 11:16 PM MST up reply actions
Kevin Kolb has problems that no amount of coaching,
will ever fix. The FO knows they get raped now, and must do everything they can to work through it, dumping a huge salary to free up space to ante up the talent level at a number of position/s in need. We need it to make CC a career Cardinal.
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by INSOMAN1ATIC on Nov 20, 2011 11:18 PM MST up reply actions
Since you are obvioulsy
An NFL coach, GM, or talent scout, please explain to the rest of us non educated professional football persons how Kolb has problems that no amount of coaching will ever fix?
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Being born?
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by JoeCB1991 on Nov 21, 2011 10:03 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Inaccuracy and skittishness
Are tough to fix.
by forget on Nov 21, 2011 11:35 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
That didn't answer the question
“Tough to fix” isn’t the same as “no amount of coaching will ever fix”. Yes inaccuracy once at the NFL level is very difficult to fix, but I don’t think the accuracy problem is entirely Kolbs fault. I have seen a lot of communication issues. This is a coach-able problem. I have seen a lot of uncomfortable route running. Fixable problem. I have seen a lot of pressure in Kolbs face and tipped ball leading to Ints, this is a fixable problem. “Skittishenss” again I believe in not true. Kevin Kolb has no problem getting hit. He seem more worried about where the pressure is coming from and worried about coughing up a fumble. This can be fixed through more reps with the O-line and getting better talent on the O-line.
The accuracy issues referred to I believe are a culmination of multiple problems. I don’t think Kevin is as accurate as Aaron Rodgers but he is better than his stats are telling. How many times has he missed a wide open WR? Not many if any I can remember. The better question is “Do the Cards have an OC or QB coach that can correct these mistakes with Kolb?”
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Its about his footwork from what I have seen
His issue is having too wide of a stance before he throws it looking at one on the videos on NFL.com where they analyzed him (it was the Steelers game). When his footwork is good and he can step into his throws properly, his accuracy is fine.
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No denying footwork plays a big role
As well as comfortableness with the receiving corp. and the play book, the offensive line play, and just errors in route running.
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ya i wasn't saying it was impossible
its just you don’t see many QB’s that are inaccurate suddenly figure it out. it’s usually a problem that plagues them for there entire career.
and by skittishness i mean he can’t stand still in the pocket, he’s always to eager to leave it.
Did the team give up on Coach?
4 three and outs, 3 INTs, 2 lost fumbles, horrendous TOP related to play calling.
The Defense held the opposition to 3 pts. below their average, but the team and game was totally mismanaged. Even the announcers were talking about QBs doing what they are told because there is no other option. The people doing the telling to the QBs have failed all season despite the name of the QB.
Honestly
I didn’t really see the defense getting to John, just bad bad bad throws, not caused by pressure if you ask me. Just an awful accuracy day for him really.
by fansincejakenrob on Nov 20, 2011 11:31 PM MST up reply actions
very true
the pass protection was there, Skelton was very inaccurate (his usual MO) and wasn’t throwing catchable passes. not to mention the horrendous INTs. Kolb has never had a game this season as bad as Skelton was yesterday, and he’s played against BAL, PIT who both have better defenses than SF.
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Gonna have to disagree on Pit and Bal having better defenses.
They may have bigger play defenses, but the Niners D is #1 in the league in points scored and top 5 in many other categories.
by billydacardsfan on Nov 21, 2011 8:04 AM MST up reply actions
In case you had not noticed
Frisco is ready to take the stingiest defense crown from the
Championship Baltimore team
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by INSOMAN1ATIC on Nov 21, 2011 11:35 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
They don't rush the passer as well.
So they aren’t better IMO
by forget on Nov 21, 2011 11:41 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
well he was horrendous in the game against Minny
Not as bad as John yesterday, but still horrendous
by CanadianCard on Nov 21, 2011 3:29 PM MST up reply actions
it was a test he failed miserably
Skelton showed yesterday why he isn’t the starter and why Kolb will be starting again as soon as he’s healthy.
We all bleed Cardinal Red, but most of us don't recognize it!
"It takes no talent to give great effort"--Chris Petersen
Patrick Peterson is the 2nd coming of Deion Sanders. They even wear the same number.
I am looking forward to the rematch
which if I remember correctly is our final game. It should serve a good measuring stick for our team in General, and the QB progression in particular. Here is hoping that Kolb would be the one playing from now on, to have a better Idea of what he is and what to expect for next season. Off course, I am assuming the Niners will be playing for something in that game rather than resting a bunch of starters because they have the NFC wrapped up…SIGH
Don't lose heart, I think I hear the theme from "Rocky" playing in the background.
The Cards need Mick and Pauly on the staff, anything would be an improvement. New approach anyone? Wednesdays practice will be held in the meat locker!
The new approach is
bring back Todd Haley after he gets fired in KC. And get rid of Russ Grimm and his best friend, Levi Brown.
Grimm is fine
I would agree on Levi though
by CanadianCard on Nov 21, 2011 3:30 PM MST up reply actions
Draft Kalil
Restructure Levi contract, move him to RT, keep grimm, fire miller. Draft some DL depth and LB depth. sounds sweet.
Moving Levi to RT may not be the best option
but moving him to guard could pan out well, assuming that it will not cost us too much after restructuring his contract.

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