Some Notes from the Rams Game
by Steel34D on Nov 7, 2011 12:48 PM MST
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The following are some quick notes from the Rams game;
Is in no way ready to replace Kolb. He did however show big improvement from last year in the little aspects of the game. The most important was he played with some swagger. That confidence is something you need as a QB and I haven't seen that from Kolb. Other than that he played very similar to Kolb but the no huddle was nice to see. I like Skelton and he can be a good insurance policy on the Kolb deal.
Clearly isn't healthy yet. I commend him for trying to go but with the Rams loading up on the run it was not a good game by Beanie.
The other WRs-
It was great to see the other WR actual step up when they are covering Fitz. It was needed. They didn't play like #2 receivers but they did play far better than they have. Might of had something to do with Skelton being more comfortable with them then Kolb.
Sam Acho and O'Brien Schofield-
Stepping up. I had repeated on this site that Acho can be a very good OLB. I thought he was the steal of our draft. If you haven't noticed in the last three games he had roughly 7 to 9 quarters of work and 3 sacks. Schofield I didn't know if he was the answer or not needed to see more but he is looking good as well. This is good I don't like the talent of 3-4 OLBs in the draft right not the best I see is Courtney Upshaw but he is graded as a late first early second.
Clearly is right now the Cardinals best 3-4 D-linemen. Getting sacks making plays, blocking FGs. He need to play with more consistency on every down but he is the Cardinals best. Resign this guy Bidwell don't let him go next year.
clearly is not right for a 3-4 D. I'd trade him for a late first or high 2nd in next years draft to a 4-3 team. (in the off-season) Maybe to Indy or Tennesse? If not those two I'm sure Philly would take him. With that pick I probably take Vontez Burfict out of ASU. Being a current ASU student and watching every game this guy is a beast when he turns it on. ( might have a slight bias though)
Patrick Petersen-
That is why he was said to be a can't miss prospect. The guy has 2 punt returns for a TD in the last 2 games. Not to mention he got an Int in this game. CB is the hardest position to learn coming out of college. I think Petersen starting to get the hang of things a bit, still got some major work to do though. So far this pick is responsible for winning one game, we he will be need next week as well.
The Defense-
typical of a Steelers type D the defense tighten things up in the Red Zone. They allowed no TDs. I have seen this red zone D in other games as well which is a good sign of what this D can be next year. The only gave up 3 FGs the other 4 points came from 2 safeties.
This was an exciting game. By no means does this mean we have turned the corner but a win I think gives ever player a little more energy the next week in practice which could result in more wins. I have stated I do not think the 49ers are a good as advertised. Maybe they will collapse like the SF Giants or even better the Red Socks. They are good but not one of the elite teams in the league. Not really any elite teams though maybe Green Bay but their D need to improve some in points and yards given up. On to Philly a team I'm sure Kevin Kolb knows something about.
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You lost me with "This was an exciting game."
I’m sure the first sixty minutes of the game caused Cardinals fans inflamed ulcers and Irritable Bowel Syndrome, but not excitement.
I got a chuckle or two out of it. I heard myself mutter under my breath that Whiz was weak with his not going for the first down on 4th and one from the twenty.
Cambell’s last second of regulation block and Petey’s run to freedom in OT was exciting indeed. The game itself was painfully bad!
It was a bad first half
but the Cards got a win, were in the game the whole time then the last minute FG block and 99 yard punt return that makes it exciting. Wasn’t exactly the Green Bay playoff game form a couple of years ago but I enjoyed the up and downs.
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Plus I need some positives
still really pissed form Sunday Night…
Huge fan of the Steelers. (that includes "Steelers West")
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Vonteze has become overrated
Hes not the same guy he was a year ago…I wouldn’t touch him with a 1000 foot pole.
Also, no team will give up a 1st or 2nd pick for dockett. We would get a 5th rounder at most
by forget on Nov 7, 2011 1:52 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Vontaze is probably trying to play more subdued.
Remember, even if he doesn’t make as many plays, he also doesn’t make as many bad plays. And, plus, don’t you think offenses now try to gameplan against him knowing how talented he is? I agree with you on Dockett. You lose a leader and great player (just misused) and don’t get anything near equivalent.
i can't even count the number of times
he has been blocked and driven back 15 yards away from the ball carrier. He’s even missed tackles!
Coaches gameplan for Brian Urlacher and Patrick Willis too…they still get theirs! If you are going to be a dominant player in the NFL, you should be able to dominate the competition in college. He hasn’t done that this year.
It is much harder to gameplan in the pros because the talent in the pros is better than in college.
See how Michigan State gameplanned against Denard Robinson and kept him in the pocket, forcing him to throw the ball? That is why Sparty won. In the pros, if you tried to do that to Vick, you would be burned quite a bit more because there are playmakers around him as well. And besides, all players have down years.
And about your “dominate in college to dominate in the NFL” argument? Just know that Joe Montana wasn’t exactly lighting it up at Notre Dame.
Also Vick can actually throw the ball...
my point was that you didn’t see P-willy get overwhelmed in college, Vonteze gets dominated out there at times.
Also for every tom brady and joe montana there are hundreds of guys that are who we thought they were…just because its possible doesn’t mean its likely
True.
But I never said that good players are never hyped. Vontaze could turn out to be the best linebacker ever. We don’t know if he ever will. We don’t know if he will be good or not. But we can take a risk. And that is what teams will do. Maybe Burfict turns out better than Patrick Willis.
i rather take the risk on someone else.
someone that isn’t an idiot
Where do you come up with the idiot stuff?
Everyone thought Cam Newton was an idiot, too. Look at how he has done.
an idiot as in
he gets the worst penalties. he just plays like a big dummy. I dont know what his deal is. He just has plays that make you ask “what was he thinking????”
Questions over Burfict’s intelligence started in his senior year of HS when he decommited from USC over concerns he couldn’t pass the entrance requirements. So he turned to ASU (which burns bc we have a terrible reputation for being a dumb school). I’m not so worried about that because football players aren’t required to be rocket scientists on the side.
I think Forget is referring to Burfict’s stream of 15 yd penalties. Last year was WAY worse as far as unnecessary roughness penalties, but he has had a few taunting and unsportsmanlike conduct penalties this year. Fresh in my head is after the Sun Devil D stopped Oregon on a 4th and 1 on the goaline, Vontaze took his helmet off to celebrate. Thank goodness they accessed it on the kickoff, but it makes you question if this kid will ever learn or will his selfishness continue to hurt the team. He has a tough time knowing the rules and abiding by them.
by cardinalbrown on Nov 7, 2011 4:55 PM MST up reply actions
Questions are what they are. Questions.
We have questions about everyone that never will be answered. Also, Burfict is not selfish. He does do some bone-headed things, but so do other players. Are you going to say that LSU punter got his touchdown revoked due to “taunting” is selfish? No, he just made a bad decision.
Oh come on
We all know Wing “taunted” so he’d make the headlines back in Australia
by cardinalbrown on Nov 7, 2011 5:01 PM MST up reply actions
he has so many mental errors though!
its really unbelievable.
Guaranteed
Vontez Burfict is considered a late 1st early second after the combine.
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he was considered a top 20 pick!
he’s fallen way back, i say he goes in the second. Why would anyone put up with his crap? He’s just a big dummy haha.
I never thought he was a top 20 pick
Just too inconsistent but he has so much upside if a good LB coached team picks him up the sky is the limit.
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last season they(mel kiper or someone) had him up that high.
you have to admit he’s been not too great this season
Really?
I heard that he has become more of a leader in the ASU locker room. He has toned down, so he doesn’t cause as many problems. And he seems to be coachable. So, he looks fine to me.
he still gets at least one 15 yard penalty a game. Even though its obvious that he's toned it down.
have you seen him play this season? he’s looked pretty bad. He hasn’t made plays against the run, he’s not even near the play!
Last year it seemed like he was everywhere on the field, flying around making plays, thats not the case this season
Maybe so.
But Ray Lewis doesn’t make every play either, and he has quiet games as well.
I doubt that he is around the ball every single time.
Ray Lewis is a great player, but even he has flaws.
99% of run plays, he's right there
go watch a sun devil game, count how many times vonteze is 10 yards away from the ball
Count how many touchdowns Case Keenum has thrown.
Now tell that he is going to have a successful pro career. He will not. What you do in college is not a perfect indicator of how you perform at the next level. Look at Arian Foster. Undrafted rookie to the NFL leading rusher last year.
I would say Keenum would LOOK like a top-notch NFL prospect.
But he is not.
Then you obviously don't know what to look for....
by forget on Nov 7, 2011 5:47 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Considering that people like stats,
Keenum would be the No. 1 pick. But things are naturally deceiving, and Keenum is the beneficiary of a system tailor-made for him. And, in QB’s, you look for work ethic, defense reading, accuracy, arm strength, mobility, and pocket presence. So, Keenum, while he is a fantastic college player, fails in about half those categories, which means that we should necessarily take everything we see as undeniably true.
There is.
However, that does not mean he is capable of doing everything. There are so many good defensive players on the Ravens that to say that Ray Lewis is on the play 99% of the time is ridiculous.
some guys just have a nose for the ball
that is my point. Vontaze does not have it
He might not show it yet.
But maybe Burfict will have a knack for getting to the ball. We will never know until he plays in the NFL.
Agree with nose for the ball
That is all I am saying as well. He is not in on 99% of the plays but he just shows up where the ball is.
Going to disagree with that
Burfict has a nose for the ball it is his technique that is in question. This year he played way to high at times being blocked easily. Other times he played beastly. He is just really raw.
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If he's not near the ball
He doesn’t “have a nose for the ball” IMO…
So you’ve seen him Get driven back 10 yards a lot this season… What makes you think that will change in the nfl?
by forget on Nov 8, 2011 7:12 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Its a technique issue
not a strength or physical ability issue. Sometimes he gets driven off the ball (I wouldn’t say 10yards though) but other times he dominates. Technique is a teachable issue. His passion, and physical abilities are a huge positive. Last year he was every where though and that screams to me nose for the ball.
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I agree,
he isn’t everywhere like last season, but the players around seemed to have stepped up so he doesn’t have to be.
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i disagree
our defense is not even close to what it was last season. The speed last year was incredible! We’ve lost too many guys this season. Its too bad, if we had the defensive personnel that we were supposed to have this season, we might be a top 5 defense in the country
I disagree.
The secondary has played better (although they still give up huge plays too much), the linebacking core is good, and our D-line gets pressure on the QB. But even if we had no injuries, we would not be a top 5 unit by any means.
With The emergence of Sutton and coleman
We would have been amazing. We are missing 2 possible all PAC-12 performers (bolden, Magee) and one really good end (brooks). We would have been a great D.
by forget on Nov 7, 2011 5:54 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I don't even want to talk injuries about ASU
What about Deantre Lewis Random GSW? I mean what are the chances? (Seriously I don’t travel in problematic areas in CA so what are the chances of getting shot if I do?) Damn this offense would have been special with him healthy.
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I dunno about that he is an athletic freak
He runs like a 4.4 and hes pretty big. I agree he hasnt been making as many plays and has looked invisible even at some points throughout games, but he is big, strong, fast, athletic, and actually is a pretty smart player as far as reading formations and picking things up as the game progresses. If anything I think he is trying to play under control and its hurting his feel for the game. He has an attitude on the field that is a thing of beauty. He reminds me of a Ray Lewis or Takeo Spikes. And in the NFL they drool over guys that play hard and mean. Cause you can teach them formations and plays you cant teach them attitude. Although at times it does cause some problems and some penalties but hes a young player, that happens. As he becomes a professional he will figure out exactly what he can and cant do and his game will balance itself. I personally see him as a cant miss player and a sure top 15 pick. My thought is that the eagles snag him in the 1st assuming they are in the 10-15 range, which looks likely….
pretty smart?
where do you guys come up with this stuff? Same thing with the 4.4 forty. He runs a 4.65-4.7 at best….. 4.4… P-willy didnt even run that fast!
I’ve never seen a guy get so many 15 yard penalties, there’s something wrong with him haha
I heard an announcer
say he ran close to a 4.4 forty and i went with that. Shoulda checked before i said that my bad. But still for as big as he is 4.65 isnt bad…
A 5th Rounder?
Dockett is one of the best at his position. At the least, we’d get a 2nd Round pick, easily.
Joe Saunders: "They played a really good game, so hats off to us"
Is he considered that anymore?
I don’t think so. He is never mentioned among elite lineman anymore.
I think the last time a DL commanded that much in return was Richard Seymour…and a) he is better than dock, and b) the raiders traded for him :)
by forget on Nov 8, 2011 7:19 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Dockett was instrumental in stopping both the 3rd and 4th down attempts
He had a very good game if you ignore that stat sheet.
Jessesb all grown up
Dockett is better than just a couple plays, I know the stat sheet never tell the whole story when you discuss 3-4 DE but I think Carter next year can play LE assuming Dan Williams plays motivated next year. It is so far a good DL draft this year and between his contract and attitude about the D. I just wouldn’t keep him.
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But, if you switched to a 4-3,
you would give up one of the best pass rushers at DT. Also, why give up a known quantity that has shown he can play well and is an influence for someone we hope turns out to at least match him?
Dockett is playing as a 3-4 DE
Was way more effective playing inside. 9-0 is the leader of our defense and it’s evident on Sundays seeing how he rallies up the troops. Our front 7 would be in a worse state without Dockett
by cardinalbrown on Nov 7, 2011 4:04 PM MST up reply actions
Exactly my thoughts.
Dockett is a pass rusher and he should be used in a way that compliments his strengths.
I wouldn't trade Dockett personally
The D-line is the strength of this team, we have to keep it together. Plus we wouldn’t get fair value for Dockett, no team would be willing to give up what he is worth
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by GreaZzy on Nov 7, 2011 2:12 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I agree.
As I have said before, if Whiz would be willing (and probably won’t be, especially after just hiring Horton) to abandon his dream of being “Steelers West”, the best direction for this D would be in a 4-3 front. All the pieces would fit well with a little tweaking (i.e. Acho gaining weight and strength to become a DE, which is what he played in college) and we could play to our strengths much more often without sacrificing due to the scheme.
I disagree
We have no true DE’s. Acho would be an undersized DE and everyone else would only fit as a DT.
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by Jesse Reynolds on Nov 7, 2011 3:05 PM MST up reply actions
But Acho only needs to gain about 15 pounds to meet the bare minimum acceptable.
And he plays with such good technique that he could be a Dwight Freeney type, less power but more finesse. Campbell could still be a DE. Dockett is definitely a DT. Dan Williams would fit in at NT. Washington remains MLB, Schofield is WLB, and Bradley is SLB. Wilson remains SS and CB’s remain CB’s. It all works out. Plus, should we need a scheme player, we could find one in the draft. It is easier to find 4-3 personnel simply because the 4-3 is the most common D front in college.
I don't mean to say that Acho has the talent or potential of Dwight Freeney.
It is unknown at this point. But know that both Acho and Freeney are finesse pass rushers and seeing as Dwight has been successful in the NFL at being that, Acho could be modeled into that kind of player for our team. I didn’t want to use the comparison and I’m not saying Sam Acho is the next Dwight Freeney. I am just saying that Acho could be a finesse pass rusher LIKE Dwight Freeney.
We would also have no depth. Scheme > players.
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by Jesse Reynolds on Nov 7, 2011 3:31 PM MST up reply actions
Only when you can pick and choose.
Take a look at it this way. Not too many players want to come here. That is just how it is. We don’t have a winning culture, we don’t get good players. So, you have to ADAPT to become better and allow yourself to be able to choose and create depth. Put Joe Montana in any other offensive system other than Bill Walsh’s West Coast Offense and see how he does. He was great, but he would not have been as good as he was.
Bill Walsh knew that Montana’s biggest knock was his arm strength, so he planned around it. He took a system where you didn’t have to throw deep often and used it. I would say it worked to success. Similarily, look at the Patriots or the Colts. They don’t have a lot of depth either. But they are willing to plan around it and find ways to make it work. So, scheme only trumps players when you can get the players you need. Otherwise, players trump the scheme.
it doesnt matter if players want to come here or not
you build a team through the draft, not by signing free agents. Signing big free agents is the worst thing a team can do. The absolute worst.
Really?
Then how did we get Kurt Warner? Did they hold a draft made just for him? Think of the teams that have won Super Bowls and see how many players were not there before. There are plenty of teams that turned it around by signing a key free agent or two.
Also, I never said “screw the draft and have a free agent binge”. All I said is that our personnel is best suited for a 4-3 and that we could make it work. And the worst thing a team can do is draft aplayer and not be willing to get rid of him if he is a disrupting force or has underachieved just because of his draft status (i.e. Levi Brown).
kurt warner wasn't a big free agent signing
we got him for peanuts.
And also, you can’t rely on getting lucky with a guy like kurt all of the time, thats a once in a generation type of signing.
please name a team that has won a super bowl by signing a huge free agent to a massive contract. The saints are the only team i can think of. And that Brees signing was really, really risky.
But, still,
free agents are known quantities than can help teams out right away. They don’t even have to be big free agent signings. And I never said anything about trying to catch lightning in a bottle every time. Kurt was basically Eli’s mentor.
All free agent signings are risky. They either turn out good or they don’t. When I say “key”, I mean a signing that turns out well for a team. I don’t mean signing big contracts out to All-Pro caliber players all the time.
are they known?
you never know how someone will react to leaving a team. Albert Haynesworth? Bryant McFadden? Calvin Pace? Are any of these guys worth their contracts?
If you weren’t talking about high priced free agents, then why don’t you think lower priced guys dont want to come here? Arizona is a great place!
All you have to do is look at Belichick,
then believe in the plug and play, but even he is having trouble replacing the studs that won him superbowls on his defense.
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Nah,
forget the 4-3 nonsense we will be running a 3-4, why this is even a debate drives me nuts. The player I hope Acho ends up being like is Mike Vrabel, he wasn’t the flashiest pass rusher, but almost ALWAYS made that critical sack
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by INSOMAN1ATIC on Nov 7, 2011 5:11 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
It is not a debate.
I KNOW Whiz will not consider right now. But I still think that, knowing all this, we should have never hired Horton (nothing against him) and should have looked for a guy to set up a 4-3 defense.
Horton has the players in position to make plenty of plays
Adbub has a handful of should be INT, D-Wash had two on Sunday, if you think Horton was a bad hire, I don’t know what to say.
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I am not saying that Horton was a bad hire.
He was a good hire. BUT the Cards D is better suited for the 4-3, which Horton has little knowledge of. That is why I said nothing against him, because he is a good coach. But I would have preferred he not be hired if it meant we would switch to a 4-3 and get a coordinato who knew how to run it with our players.
I'm a little lost,
we were never switching to a 4-3 Pendergast got a chance to run a hybrid, but failed epically.
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I think it's a fallacy
That our team is better suited for the 4-3.
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by Jesse Reynolds on Nov 7, 2011 9:58 PM MST up reply actions
but since our defense is so bad
its easier to say that we are better suited for a 4-3, the coaches are always doing something wrong, lol.
i agree though, only some of our players would be better suited for a 4-3 Defense, ie Dockett, Bradley, and possibly Wilson
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I think it is an excuse...
becuase we didn’t not have the OLBs for a 3-4. But honestly We didn’t have the D line for a 4-3 we have two 1 tech DT and 2 3 tech DT no true 4-3 DE. Even if Acho would have play RE. Not to mention who did we have to play 4-3 LBs. I mean Bradley and thats it . Haggans, Porter have always played 3-4. Washington has only been taught 3-4 ILB. The Cardinals had been playing some type of 3-4 since 2007 would be counterproductive to switch back now.
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THANK YOU
I’ve been calling to get ’Tazed in the draft all season…Pair him with Washington and we have the thumper/rusher to pair with our tackling machine in D Wash
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I am just saying like Burfict
If there is a higher rated safety candidate I would get the safety instead. Not to mention Fitz could use some help and we need a solid rotational back up 5 tech DE and or NT. ( depends where Carter plays next year). I don’t like the top OLBs as 3-4 OLBs except for maybe Courtney Upshaw so either Graves needs to scout that no name gem of a player or Acho and Schofield better be the answer. This is why we needed a that second round pick, some big holes needed to be filled.
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All the while
Philly is gonna be filling holes like repair men. They have like 10 picks this upcoming draft. I figure they will snatch up 3 or 4 Lbs including burfict. I only brought this up because, I HATE PHILLY! Luckily they cant draft so hopefully they have alot of busts, cause they are a few linebackers and a WR short of being as good if not better then green bay. And it will be green bay/philly every year, unless vick keeps sucking it up!!!! haha
Free agency is like the draft, except you are given more knowledge about want you are looking at.
The draft, other than scouting, is pretty much pick and hope you hit gold. And by big signings, I mean players of much significance (i.e. Nnamdi Asomugha).
I liked what Skelton did
For a 5th round kid from Fordham. He is a project still and he came in and got us a win when the starting QB was injured, that is his job and he did it well. You can see the potential in Skelton to improve and he just looks so natural in the pocket. He could not move the offense for squat during the game but that has to be tough on a young QB to get 2 first half rushing yards (and 22 by RBs for the game). He wasn’t facing a world beater defense and was just too inconsistant to prove a threat to take the QB at this point in the season. This defense is just not very good and he couldn’t do much against them for most of the game. I would like to see what he can do WITH a healthy Beanie Wells. If Kolb continues to struggle or even keep regressing then I see Skelton getting some looks this year.
Beanie looked absolutely terrible on Sunday. I don’t know what happened since Baltimore but he looked like a different player out there. Couldn’t cut, burst, or explode at all and was completely ineffective against one of the leagues worst run defenses. Clearly Beanie regressed since last week (speaking in terms of his health, not ability).
Acho and Scho – Both look great out there, I really hope AT LEAST Porter has lost his starting job (and most of his snaps) and that they are challenging Haggans for his spot although he is decent. 3 sacks in the last 3 games for Acho (1st player since 09 (Dockett)) so the kid can flat out play.
CC – Get that man a contract, NOW. That is all I have to say. He needs to stay on this team moving forward. Dockett is not putting up his numbers in this 3-4 defense but I still wouldn’t trade the guy because we won’t get his value back in a trade so keep him cause the guy can play and is a leader on this defense.
PP – What can you say…. He has pretty much blanketed his receiver in coverage the last 3 weeks and seems to me will only be improving as time passes. No other rookie is asked to do what Patrick does for this team (stepping in as the #1 CB and also taking PR duties) playing almost every snap. His PR skills have just left me in awe. I cannot wait to see this guy play for the Cardinals for years to come. Going to be exciting, that is for sure.
i think beanie couldn't explode
because there were guys in his way…
Really?
You are honestly telling me you think Beanie looked his usual self out there? The Oline didn’t have their best game but I don’t think it mattered as slow as Beanie looked.
Beanie didn't hit the hole like he has been this season
He looked like 2010 Beanie. Dancing and trying to be cutsie in the backfield. Hopefully he is full strength for Philly because he is our best chance at winning that game.
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by Jesse Reynolds on Nov 7, 2011 5:21 PM MST up reply actions
There wasn't much room
There was really no chance to evaluate beanie, he never got out of the backfield
by forget on Nov 7, 2011 5:56 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
+1
We need to resign CC. The guy has come on real strong this year.
Our defense is so close to being something special. Washington is going to be one of the top LB’s in the game in a few years. His stats against the Rams were ridiculous. Add in Peterson, Acho, Schofield, Williams and hopefully soon Bradley and we could have a young and strong core for years.
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by Jesse Reynolds on Nov 7, 2011 5:23 PM MST up reply actions
Washington just need to gain at least 10lbs
And he could be the Cardinals Lawrence Timmons. ( I know stop with the Steelers comparison but I said this before the Cardinals drafted him. Both have explosive movemtns for LBs.)
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"If I could start my life over again, I would be a professional football player and you better damn well believe a Pittsburgh Steeler!"- Jack Lambert
I tend to agree
But I don’t want to see Washington lose his speed. He needs to find the limit on his weight in where he can keep that speed too.
Maybe the Baltimore D
left him purple and black.
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Surprised no one yelled at me for suggesting signing Max Starks as RT.
He signed a 1 year contract, with how Marcus Gilbert is playing and assuming Colon comes back healthy the Steelers won’t need him. He is an average LT but could be a value RT and fill one hole on the line. The first round pick can fill the LT if we pick right. Plus Ryan Williams will come back healthy and the young player on offense will have better cohesion. Offense should be much better.
Huge fan of the Steelers. (that includes "Steelers West")
"If I could start my life over again, I would be a professional football player and you better damn well believe a Pittsburgh Steeler!"- Jack Lambert
Sad but true.
Brown’s contract is going to shuttle him off the team next year unless he agrees to new terms. Keith stinks. Bridges has value as a back up mainly because he can play every position. Whatever happens in the off season it is imperative that offensive tackle be addressed strongly.
I am hoping they can offer him guard money in an extension and convince him to stay
No one is going to give him LT money.
by Drullin'OverDaCards on Nov 8, 2011 4:06 PM MST up reply actions
Fill a garbage can with bricks and it would do better than Levi
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I have to disagree about any real chance that the Whiners will collaspe. They have 7 wins already and still have 5 games against NFC West teams who frankly all just suck. I see no possible way they win less than 11 games and likely they win 13. God that sucks!!!
They may go one and done in the playoffs (I hope), but even that is likely to be after getting a first round bye with the number 2 playoff seed.
by Drullin'OverDaCards on Nov 8, 2011 4:04 PM MST reply actions
I agree.
The Niners may not be as good as their record indicates, but they will not collapse epically enough for any one else to win the division.
They're 7-1
And they have only played 1 divisional game…they’re for real
by forget on Nov 8, 2011 5:39 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I am not saying that they are bad.
I am just saying that they have some flaws. If you can stop Gore and the rushing attack and force Alex Smith to throw to beat you, I believe you stand a good chance. Alex Smith has improved, but he is really just a game manager for them.
I completely disagree...
Now I know they probably won’t collapse but I don’t like this team. They are play good defense but that offense is bad. I think if they have to play team that can put up points like Green Bay, or New Orleans they will get beat badly. Alex Smith hasn’t negatively effected any game so far but how many games have they played where the run game was shut down. When the play the Ravens and the Steelers I feel every one will get a better look at this team. I think they will see they have some major issues that Harbaugh has done a good job masking so far.
Huge fan of the Steelers. (that includes "Steelers West")
"If I could start my life over again, I would be a professional football player and you better damn well believe a Pittsburgh Steeler!"- Jack Lambert
I see the Giants beating them too
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[I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
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This Sunday is on Harbaugh.
We will see if my Niners are better than anybody gives them credit for or finally slip on the road. They have no reason on paper to be 7-1 except they have a HC that uses his playbook well and devises gameplans that work. Niners over the Giants 27-24.
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