How Much Of A Chance Do the Arizona Cardinals Have Against The Eagles In Philadelphia?
I know it is early in the week and we don't know who is going to be hurt or not, but after the Philadelphia Eagles managed to find a way to lose yet again at home when they had a fourth quarter lead, I wanted to get some thoughts down. The Cardinals will head in to Philly this week and face one of the most talented teams on paper, with some incredible team speed and talent. However, they have not yet put it together.
The opening line for the game shows little faith in the Cardinals. They open as 14-point underdogs. That's a lot of points to give.
But as troubled as the Eagles have been, this game worries me a bit.
Now, you all know me probably as being a little too positive. There is hope in my mind, based on the ability to stay in really every single game except against the Minnesota Vikings. But this Eagles offense is very, very talented. The were moving the ball rather easily it seemed against one of the most physical defenses in the league in the Chicago Bears.
The Philly defense looks suspect. They have really good coverage guys, but they did not get a single sack against a Bears offensive line reputed for terrible pass blocking. Their run defense is weak.
Here's the problem. Unless Beanie Wells gets a lot healthier, he won't be able to gash the Philly defense the way that Matt Forte did many times. The other running backs on the roster (Chester Taylor, Alfonso Smith, LaRod Stephens-Howling) just simply have not shown they can carry a running game.
We also don't know the quarterback situation. As much as many here want to say that John Skelton should start, let us remember the 50 minutes of suck offense. It looked like 2010, but it was against a bad 1-6 team. Kevin Kolb, as much as he has had struggles, has led some good drives. He is not as poised in the pocket, but he is better than Skelton.
Defensively, stopping the Eagles' speed is going to be a challenge. Michael Vick, LeSean McCoy, DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin -- that is a tall task.
The Cardinals showed could run with the big boys for at least a half against the Ravens. They certainly have the talent to be able to do it. The problem is that there are key injuries to attack the Cards' depth and then there is the fact that the Cardinals have yet to put a good 60 minutes together.
What do you think the Cardinals' chances are this week? I think they have a chance...and that's about it. But that is the track record this year talking. If the line stays that high, I think I would lean towards taking the points, but that is because Arizona has played teams closely for the most part.
How much of a chance do you think the Cardinals have of knocking off a very disappointing Philly team?
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I fully expect the Eagles to win in a route on Sunday
In Philly, Eagles coming off a loss an are pissed, early start time, raucous crowd in Philly, and honestly, the Cardinals just aren’t very good. Philly has a strong pass rush, and we know how awful our tackles are. We might be able to run the ball, but that’s probably the only advantage the Cardinals will have. Besides that if we are playing from behind, we will be passing all game and the Philly pass ruxh will absolutely tee off on our tackels and QBs.
I would love to be surprised by a Cardinals win, but I don’t see it happening.
We all bleed Cardinal Red, but most of us don't recognize it!
"It takes no talent to give great effort"--Chris Petersen
Patrick Peterson is the 2nd coming of Deion Sanders. They even wear the same number.
+1
Would that be a mail route, pass route, map route, or just a plain old rout? ;-)
by Drullin'OverDaCards on Nov 8, 2011 10:53 AM MST up reply actions
too bad there are two halves in football games then
We all bleed Cardinal Red, but most of us don't recognize it!
"It takes no talent to give great effort"--Chris Petersen
Patrick Peterson is the 2nd coming of Deion Sanders. They even wear the same number.
We are due for...
our yearly upset of a team. I hope the Cards can be competitive and have a chance I would be very happy. We will need luck, as well as our offense, defense, and special teams to show up and play for 4 quarters.
Good Luck Cards! I look forward to the game.
All the Skelton Supporters are quite quiet right now.....
and it should stay that way….. he played exactly as i expected him to far from great (thank you Defence and Special teams), against a brutal St.Louis. imagin had that been Baltimore or Pitt….
People there is plenty of Kolb-Cool-Aid over here at the stand if your getting thersty again.
Face it... the QB position is still a BIG issue.
Skelton stands a much better chance of beating Philly then Kolb… not that either one has a good chance. Kolb is hurting and the only benefit to that is that he can’t abandon ship like he’s prone to do. Skelton’s main weakness is lack of experience and playing time. Skelton’s fourth quarter play was not a fluke, it was having a sense of the game and time to settle in… and then he played better than Kolb has played most of this season. If your position is that Kolb’s overall skills are better, agreed, but then if that really mattered he wouldn’t abandon the pocket as quickly and he would win more often then he has won.
Your right,
who wouldn’t want a guy that is 1-6 over a guy that is 3-2…Great points Steezy
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I dont hate Skelton
but we traded for Kolb to be OUR guy. Yes he has been a bit of a dissapointment, i agree.
but its to early to abaondon faith, i dont understand you logic is wanting a complete change at this point.
Puncher's chance
With Skelton’s arm lighting can strike several times for the Cards if Fitz is targeted often. That will open up the other receivers as well as the running game.
The Eagles average 25 points and that’s what the Cards normally give up. I suggest if the D tightens up and PP can get a pick or two from Vick Arizona can get the W.
The Cardinals score 20 points with all the conservative play calling holding them back. If the OC opens up the playbook, just for yuks, these guys are talented enough to score 28-30. Especially with the W last week. Confidence can do wonders. Check the Niners.
The Eagles were favored by something like 8 points last night too, and that didn't work out too well...
I’ll repeat what I said last night, the Bears showed how to defend the Eagles, don’t let them get the big play. You can’t stop Vick forever, but you can contain him. Our bog O-Line could also open up some massive holes in the run game, and DRC looks like he is struggling badly right now along with the rest of their pro bowl corners.
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Don't let them get the big play.
That is going to be a tough one. The Cardinals defense has given up a lot of 20+ plays.
I'm okay with 20 yarders being the max if the 40 + 50 + yard plays aren't given up
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Bears strength is their LBs which matches up well with Philly and provides some containment for Vick - while our young guys are looking good
I would not call them a strength yet thought I am looking forward to seeing them chasing Vick around the field
by Drullin'OverDaCards on Nov 8, 2011 10:50 AM MST up reply actions
They have a lot of speed on their defense too, which makes it easier for them to move around and try to keep Vick from getting big runs on scrambles
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The Cards went to the east coast and played the Ravens down to the wire. They have a lot better chance against the Eagles than a 14 point spread credits them with.
The defense is looking better as the season progresses, particularly since Porter has been shelved for Acho and Schofield. The secondary preventing the big play is a huge concern though. A bigger concern is if Beanie is healthy enough to contribute. He had nothing against St. Louis. The Cardinals are keeping themselves in games. If they can tighten things up they stand as good a chance of winning as not. The Eagles are vastly over rated.
Winning in the NFL
… is more about what you make of a situation then what skills you bring to the situation. When people talk about the “elite” QB’s in the league the first names you hear are Manning, Brees, Rodgers… then Brady, then Big Ben. Look at thier records. Brady and Ben don’t get the WOW’s but they sure get the wins… why? Because they are elite at winning games with poise and presence. Brady and Ben both had very average stats their first years in the league but both won Superbowls. Both threw for an avg of 210 yd per game in those years. Ben’s first two years were under 200 ypg. It’s all about poise.
Skelton is in the same mold as Brady and Ben
Brady and Ben both had better teams and great coaches. Both Kolb and Skelton have a challenge that neither of them faced early in their careers… no running game, an OL that can’t pass protect and a coach who is a good leader but a below average strategist.
I'm a little lost on that one as well,
Brady made his name in the clutch.
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This is the test
For our young players that have been getting lots of playing time or are just stepping into a more prominent roll. Philly is reeling off a loss at home and we are coming off the first win since week 1. The Cardinals running game appears to be the only advantage they have (maybe linebackers as well, as sad as that is) and will need Beanie to step up huge (and look like he is somewhat healthy again….). It is time to find out if we can contain Mike Vick and the speed on the Philidelphia offense. I think a key for the defense is A) stop the big play and B) create some turnovers. We need favorable field position or even points off the defense for the Cardinals to pull off an upset in Philly. The Cardinals are usually good for at least an upset a year so to me this feels like it could be it.
Skelton will also need to play much better but hopefully he will have support from a running game this time! If we can’t run on Philly we can’t run on anyone…
Sunday will provide us with all our answers.
If we're going to win this game, we are going to have to get some big turnovers and play consistent defense
Look at the first half of the Baltimore game. Our defense got key turnovers, and put the offense in great position, and we capitalized. If we can get big plays on defense i say we have a chance to win.
Who ever is at QB has to take care of the ball and manage the game well. Hopefully we can have a healthy Sherman and Beanie, so that we can use our advantage of a good running game on their suspect run defense.
If we can get these aspects to come together, and play consistent defense. we could very well win this game.
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Yup
You pretty much said the same things I did. I didn’t add the turnover point specifically but you are right on with that. He can’t be a game manager and win but he can’t create a bunch of turnovers either. If we can shut down McCoy that takes a huge weapon from the Eagles and I think we have a shot at doing just that.
exactly
i am very scared of the speed on their offense. McCoy, Vick, and Desean are all the faster (or among the fastest) at their respective positions. The defense has to play smart and keep everything in front of them. We have the talent(D-Wash, PP21, Cho & Scho) to make big plays on defense and when those opportunities present themselves we have to take them.
We definitely have a chance, but we have to play a really good game on both sides of the ball.
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Our secondary won't keep their receivers in front of them.
They haven’t been able to do so yet against fast receivers. Pressure on Vick will be critical in preventing the long pass play.
I am confident in what Patrick Peterson will be able to do in coverage
The rest of the team, it could be an issue. Only one way to find out and that is play the game!
i'd like to think/say we have a lil momentum
However, after the eagles lost lost night were catching em @ a bad time but like the sayin goes “any givin sunday” i think we needa play flawless football and yes create turnovers and hope my man pp21 pulls another rabbit out his hat, i’d like to see us pound the ball and keep there offense of the field well see.
by tucson cards fan on Nov 8, 2011 2:25 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Catching them at a bad time?
I disagree. They are 4-4…. They are pretty much out of the playoff picture. They may have tons of talent but they aren’t playing up to their potential. I am not saying the Eagles have given up but their 4 losses proves that they can be beaten. They play down to their competition too much and have a shotty defense. We played the Ravens well after they had an embarrassing loss on MNF to a bad Jaguars team, that is even worse than this Philly loss.
there 3-5 actually
but all that does is further prove your point that they are beatable, lol.
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Haha, my bad
Thought I heard they were 4-3 last night but guess I misheard that. Good catch and yeah it only states the case even more.
your a fool of u think they gunna lay down for us
Or not try and win after lastnights performance..are they beatable yes anyone is but i can all but guarentee u it can get ugly fast after the loss lastnight there gunna come out on fire and we simply dont have the personale to match that so yes we catching em at a bad time
by tucson cards fan on Nov 8, 2011 5:20 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I never said they are going to lay down
You are putting words in my mouth. We will find out on Sunday because right now that is all just speculation.
don't get me wrong i hope we get the W out there
But just cuz there 3-5 dosent mean its an automatic win there still verry dangerous and the best 3-5 team in the league for sure
by tucson cards fan on Nov 8, 2011 8:43 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Again I am not disagreeing
I have not crowned the W to the Cardinals. All I am saying is you can’t just count them out because it’s the “dream team” coming off another loss that’s all. Philly has loads of talent and they are the favorite in this game for a reason but the Cards at least have a chance.
Playing a clean game.
Is about all I would add to that. No turnovers. Limit penalties. In other words, don’t beat ourselves. Beanie is the x factor. Will he be a gimp again or be ready to play?
CC had a huge game last game...
Your turn Dockett!! Need the front 3 to play hard again this game, those stops on 3rd and 1 (and 4th and 1) vs. the Rams were huge difference makers. Our guys wanted it, and got it, hope they come into this game ready to fight again!!
Open the playbook Whiz!
The Cards got a taste, if the play calling improves the Cards can bust down the doors and feast.
Looking forward to a banguet. Come on coach, produce a menu that is worthy of NFL apetites.























