Cardinals Vs. Bengals Week 16 Christmas Eve Open Thread
Arizona Cardinals at Cincinnati Bengals, Dec 24, 2011 11:00 AM MST
The Arizona Cardinals are back East playing the early game against the Cincinnati Bengals. Both teams must win to just stay in the hunt for a playoff berth, and are hoping for an early Christmas gift. While it has not been announced, it appears that Cardinals QB John Skelton will once again get the start, where he is 4-1 when he starts. The Bengals will try and log only their second victory of the season against a non-losing team.
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Morning everyone
Hoping to see the ground game do well today, especially after the last couple of weeks reminding me of 2006 where the longest run in 419 attempts was only 18 yards by Edge and Boldin.
In 07 the longest run was only 27 yards with 402 carries too.
Think PP will make a huge play at some point too.
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nice stat history Joe. I've been a cardinal fan forever and didn't kno that, let's go redbirds
by tucson cards fan on Dec 24, 2011 10:22 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I was just looking through PFR the other day at all the yearly stats
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The flea flicker doesn't count?
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Not in my book
i want to see him make a play on the ball, not catching a deep ball that’s basically a punt
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I love being able to roll out of bed and the Cardinals game is about to start
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One of the nice things about living on the Best Coast
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Anyone else listening to the radio this morning hear them mention that the Cards liked Andy Dalton a lot?
Maybe we would have taken him instead of Williams if the Bengals didn’t get him first.
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idk maybe
but we know Williams from little we saw in the preseason he going to be special if he recovers well form the injury
Hope he can still do the things he did at VT
Looked dynamic in his freshman year.
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7 of Skelton's 10 picks came on the road too, so he really needs to be careful with the ball today
Hope he can do that.
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Happy Christmas eve everyone!
I’m in Tennessee at a buffalo wild wings to watch the game.
Looking for consistency in the play calling and qb play.
Most importantly I’m looking for a win!
We all bleed Cardinal Red, but most of us don't recognize it!
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Patrick Peterson is the 2nd coming of Deion Sanders. They even wear the same number.
by robloosli on Dec 24, 2011 10:41 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Enjoying a beer...
…in my new Arizona Cardinals frosty pilsner glass, which I got for Christmas! Yum. I’d like to see an offence that gets on track and stays on track for an entire afternoon. The defense can keep on doing what it’s doing.
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by OntarioCardsFan1977 on Dec 24, 2011 10:47 AM MST reply actions
Why?
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espn experts are usually wrong...lol.
"The point is, by my standards, I won fair and square."
-Bender
No, asking why Warner laughed
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I’m so excited and yet so nervous, i just hope that skelton take a good care of the ball and be at least a little consistent
by BrazilianCardinal on Dec 24, 2011 10:52 AM MST reply actions
Hey guys .... hope today's an early Christmas present. Let's go Cards!
"The point is, by my standards, I won fair and square."
-Bender
Oh look it is the guy who can't pronounce anyones name
Why can’t we get Rosen back to call a game?
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FOX only have him calling Dallas games now
They need his luck
by Irishcardinal on Dec 24, 2011 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
Bastards
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506 says Rosen is doing the TB/Car game
Why can’t we get him back here? It will just guarantee a great game from PP.
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GO CARDS!!!
lets get the win today is not a day i wantto walk around angry because of a loss
by BIGRED CARDINAL on Dec 24, 2011 11:00 AM MST via Android app reply actions
Real quick Cards need the Giants to lose and Detroit right?
"The point is, by my standards, I won fair and square."
-Bender
I keep forgetting .... it's a crazy month my way.
"The point is, by my standards, I won fair and square."
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we need either Detroit or Atlanta to lose
both would be even better. A Giants lose eliminates them from playoff contention
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either DET or ATL has to lose out
with us winning out, and the Giants have to lose one of their remaining games
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1 more yard for 1000
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That was close....
Dayum Fitz
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Damn it Billick is calling the game.... our team usually plays like crap when he calls the game.
"The point is, by my standards, I won fair and square."
-Bender
And sacked
Our line can’t protect anyone
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Damn you Skelly
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haha, John Skelton is back!
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by OntarioCardsFan1977 on Dec 24, 2011 11:06 AM MST reply actions
Consistently inconcistent
Joe said it best.
Joe Saunders: "They played a really good game, so hats off to us"
Again, my biggest owrry with Skelton is that his early struggles will screw us so much that the 4th quarter magic won't matter
Like the 49ers game.
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Yeah, we need to keep it close for another 4th quarter miracle
by BrazilianCardinal on Dec 24, 2011 11:07 AM MST up reply actions
For once, I'd like a consistent game
4th quarter magic is great and all, but when the hole your in is so big, sometimes it doesn’t matter.
Joe Saunders: "They played a really good game, so hats off to us"
Difference between Skelton and Kolb
I have no hate on Skelton, but I’ve been seeing that immediately after a bad play (in this case a sack) Kolb recovers faster than Skelton.
Skelton has had some times where he lead a TD drive after throwing a pick though
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Of course
Everyone has exception. I’m talking most of the time, where Kolb is almost always composed. His mistakes are not because of pressure.
by KholdStare88 on Dec 24, 2011 11:12 AM MST up reply actions
Mike Miller strikes again
6 yard gain on first run, so lets throw throw throw
by Redbird Nation #1 on Dec 24, 2011 11:07 AM MST reply actions
Well
the defense can give Skelton an early X-mas present bye holding them to a FG
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Someone tell Mike Miller its Ho Ho Ho
Not Throw Throw Throw
by Redbird Nation #1 on Dec 24, 2011 11:08 AM MST reply actions 2 recs
Offsides on Green....
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I was ready
To start screaming about how the NFL has fallen to a new low.
Joe Saunders: "They played a really good game, so hats off to us"
Every time a flag is thrown I think it was on us
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Hey look, our old replacement kicker Mike Nugent
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Hey, Skelton?
You owe your defense dinner.
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by Skii on Dec 24, 2011 11:09 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Anyone have a link that works? mine died..
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by OntarioCardsFan1977 on Dec 24, 2011 11:11 AM MST up reply actions
thanks i found one .. missed the d stand but oh well.
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man i love this defense
if only our offense was half as good and consistent
by BIGRED CARDINAL on Dec 24, 2011 11:10 AM MST via Android app reply actions 1 recs
Apparently we have a better chance of winning if we're down at half.
All our 7 wins say so.
by CARDstucknVA on Dec 24, 2011 11:11 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Is Insomniac here today?
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Why don't we just take a knee?
We never get past the 20 anyways
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that's what i was wondering .. wth is going on?
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I guess they want to give him some rest
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I saw that he had a hamstring injury so maybe they just want to rest him
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Keep him fresh for offensive plays
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Hope he keeps that ball
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Bad bad Levi Brown, worst O-Line in the whole damn town!
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Okay
…well can’t fault Skelton on that one…he didn’t even have time to look much less throw away.
If it was Kolb
Everyone would be saying it’s his fault, and that he should’ve thrown it away.
Joe Saunders: "They played a really good game, so hats off to us"
lolol
It’s nice to be objective for once.
by KholdStare88 on Dec 24, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
Russ Grimm needs to carry a large stick
So everytime his O-line screws up, he can beat them. I guarantee they’ll step up their play immediately.
Joe Saunders: "They played a really good game, so hats off to us"
by Skii on Dec 24, 2011 11:16 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
lol...agree
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays Everyone!!
pretty much true to form thus far.
Skelton bad start
O-line suspect
D doing what they do best….
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
Hope there its a lil girl in. that house
by fansincejakenrob on Dec 24, 2011 11:17 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Merry Christmas from Indiana
All I want this year is an offensive line that can play
by Birdman from Mesa on Dec 24, 2011 11:17 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Kyndra620 Kyndra
Kolb told fox tv crew he is having hard time filtering thoughts and putting thoughts together. Not good.
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Does he need a real doctor?
Like a legit doctor’s appointment?
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Wow
Look at that stat…most sacks allowed?
What the hell, Green pushed off there!
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10 yards over his head too
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so if this O line is all that...and Grimm is a miracle worker...
why do we lead the league in giving up sacks……
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
The organization loves Russ Grimm
He’s not going anywhere for the next 10 years.
Joe Saunders: "They played a really good game, so hats off to us"
I know and you are right.
but after five years, I like to continue to raise this point…..different measuring sticks being applied to staff…
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
I'm not trying to be rude to you
And I agree with you, it’s confusing that the organization loves him so much while the O-line is so bad.
But then again, maybe it’s the talent we have. Hopefully we can actually give him some good players to work with this Off-season.
Joe Saunders: "They played a really good game, so hats off to us"
didn't take it that way, but thanks!
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
Ugh
Once again we have a terrible first quarter/half. It’s almost useless to watch the Cardinals play unless we get beaten up and get a pep talk at the half.
We've made good adjustements at half time in almost all our wins...
so there’s that.
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by OntarioCardsFan1977 on Dec 24, 2011 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
Everytime the ref's help another team
I automatically hate them.
Congratulations, Bengals. I hate you with a passion now.
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by Skii on Dec 24, 2011 11:21 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Cam just passed Manning for the rookie passing yards record
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lots of people were....
I’m not a huge Cam fan, but I think he’s good for the league, and I like it. If he can stop the hot-dogging, I’d like him better..
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
And it’s more impressive when you consider all those rushing yards/TDs too.
by KholdStare88 on Dec 24, 2011 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
VERY, VERY impressive. His team isn't going to be half bad either
just give the panthers a couple of years.
by Superfizzogotflow on Dec 24, 2011 11:24 AM MST up reply actions
Another stand by the D. I hope the well doesn't run dry this time.
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by OntarioCardsFan1977 on Dec 24, 2011 11:22 AM MST reply actions
A NEpolean Dynamite cartoon? REally?
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by OntarioCardsFan1977 on Dec 24, 2011 11:25 AM MST up reply actions
Ooops, supposed to be in the general thread. ^
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by OntarioCardsFan1977 on Dec 24, 2011 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
It's ok.
If we win out and don’t make the playoffs, we are stuck with miller next year. This way his A$$ is gone.
by Superfizzogotflow on Dec 24, 2011 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
I'm going to remember this one....interesting prediction
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
Lol i wish I could say it with a certainty.
as it is I am just wishing. but I really would like to see someone different. It paid huge dividends with the defense so I don’t know why Whiz would be scared to do it again.
by Superfizzogotflow on Dec 24, 2011 11:28 AM MST up reply actions
because he picked Miller
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
that was a good catch...
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
Yeah it was...
Hence the reason why I have Gresham on my fantasy team, except I really don’t want him to do well this week. :P
by KholdStare88 on Dec 24, 2011 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
I guess the well was dry after all.
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by OntarioCardsFan1977 on Dec 24, 2011 11:25 AM MST reply actions
Damn
Great effort by Washington to stay with Gresham. Dude is a beast and tough as hell to cover when he breaks off his route
I hate when Billick calls the game because this is what happens. Also I hate hearing his "insights"... lol talking about Adub then circles the wrong guy.
"The point is, by my standards, I won fair and square."
-Bender
by az78true on Dec 24, 2011 11:28 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Nice catch and throw
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
There we go Skelton
That’s how you do it.
Joe Saunders: "They played a really good game, so hats off to us"
Skelton has a huge arm...
Can’t wait for a bit more accuracy
by Generalisimo Marcos on Dec 24, 2011 11:30 AM MST reply actions
I know we criticize the O line alot but when you have a 1000 yard rusher...
They deserve a lot of credit.
I think we all said they are a good run blocking O line
That is the strength of Colledge, Brown, and Hadnot. Pass rush is the complete opposite, hence the most sacks allowed stat
by cardinalbrown on Dec 24, 2011 11:32 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
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we cant afford
To not atleast get 3
by tucson cards fan on Dec 24, 2011 11:30 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Does Skelton not get that after a certain time, you need TO GET RID OF THE BALL!!!
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
We need the D to get us a turnover!!!
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
Wait, why isn't CIN starting in our half of the field?
I thought for the first half the opposing team got the ball past the 50
Trying to get his hands up
Don’t think he was going to get there.
by CARDstucknVA on Dec 24, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions
That looked bad
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
I'm trying to decide
Whether I should continue watching this game, or go back to sleep. Hard choice. Sleep is winning.
Joe Saunders: "They played a really good game, so hats off to us"
Skii, on the upside at least we may be able to give up the false hope we have been clining to
by Birdman from Mesa on Dec 24, 2011 11:35 AM MST up reply actions
Good pressure and coverage - good play by Dalton - SKELTON - TAKE NOTICE
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
by Cardzfan on Dec 24, 2011 11:34 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Where's Insomiac?
I wonder why he never shows up for the starts of these games.
Joe Saunders: "They played a really good game, so hats off to us"
by Skii on Dec 24, 2011 11:35 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
wow...that was a big hole
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
Minny was a turnover fest by the offense
this is not… at least yet
by CanadianCard on Dec 24, 2011 11:37 AM MST up reply actions
except minnisota was over by this point
IIRC it was 21-0 after 1st quarter against Minni
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hopefully it turns into something like SF
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
Well the 1st quarter is over
can the Cards start to play some actual football now
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Now the game begins! Go Cards.
by Displaced_CardsFan on Dec 24, 2011 11:38 AM MST reply actions
usually we don't let 17 points go before we get something.
This is not going to end up like our other games
by AlaskanCard on Dec 24, 2011 11:40 AM MST up reply actions
I think Skelton should play 3 quarters of a game, as his warm up
Maybe then he’ll be able to start the actual game well
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we keep
Having to relie on 2nd have miracles at some point the well gunna run dry
by tucson cards fan on Dec 24, 2011 11:40 AM MST via mobile reply actions
agreed
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
This is starting to look like a bad effort by the D
and they are the ones who have kept us in games in the past…The O has to step up!!
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
Rhodes is down again
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
defense is gettin eaten up
we have no life out there this sucks
by BIGRED CARDINAL on Dec 24, 2011 11:41 AM MST via Android app reply actions
This day just keeps getting worse
Now those terrible Miller Lite commercials are back. When are they going to realize that they’re not funny?
Joe Saunders: "They played a really good game, so hats off to us"
by Skii on Dec 24, 2011 11:42 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
They are pitiful. who thinks that crap up?
by Birdman from Mesa on Dec 24, 2011 11:43 AM MST up reply actions
They just get worse and worse
Man card? Really?
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It seems like they just keep getting worse
And who decided that drinking lite beer makes you manly?
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Please back Haley!! Offense sucks so much!!
by JohMa on Dec 24, 2011 11:42 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
This game sucks
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Good job by Peterson there
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Well, the D stopped them!!
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
Missed it!
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O needs to step up....
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I have a feeling
…we might see OT again this week?
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by OntarioCardsFan1977 on Dec 24, 2011 11:45 AM MST reply actions
If we even manage to score some points
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Do something now O!
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ok here is the turning point
they didnt get points so lets drive down the field and make them pay
by BIGRED CARDINAL on Dec 24, 2011 11:46 AM MST via Android app reply actions
All of these missed field goals cant be a coincidence
I’d say kickers are jumpy around CC
by Irishcardinal on Dec 24, 2011 11:47 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
I think you are right
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
Another overthrow by Skelton
Ridiculous.
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Damn, Fitz should have had that
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Skelton to Roberts for 67 yards, TOUCHDOWN
just wait a few minutes and this will be true /\
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by BrazilianCardinal on Dec 24, 2011 11:48 AM MST reply actions
Cam just had a 91 yard TD
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Brady is 2 of 9
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Did you see that pass from Cam?
Wondering how many YAC Lafell had
by cardinalbrown on Dec 24, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions
It was caught at the Panthers 35
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C'mon Bucs, make a tackle
Going against Cam for the championship this week
by cardinalbrown on Dec 24, 2011 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
Are you serious?
This is even worse.
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i dont like these deep drops by skelton
the pressure is getting to skelton shorten the drops
by BIGRED CARDINAL on Dec 24, 2011 11:49 AM MST via Android app reply actions
Rhodes sprained his ankle
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What was the call there?
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Hey Skelton homers
Please for the love of god explain this.
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by Skii on Dec 24, 2011 11:49 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
When your playoff hopes are dissappearing
It’s sort of hard to be calm.
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All I want is for Skelton to actually play consistently
And I will be fine with starting him for the next 10 years.
Joe Saunders: "They played a really good game, so hats off to us"
Skleton has his faults so far
but it’s also hard when the run game is not there and having the 31 ranked O-Line
by CanadianCard on Dec 24, 2011 11:53 AM MST up reply actions
the whole game is on his shoulders
still needs to step up though
by CanadianCard on Dec 24, 2011 11:53 AM MST up reply actions
Kolb plays with the same RB and the same O-line
So it works for both QB’s then.
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Cardinals ball?
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The check-downs aren't working here....
not sure that’s on Skelton if no one is open. Hard to see the actual routes being run…
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Someone is gonna be open
thats what plays are deigned for, to create openings in man or zone coverage. No way that the Bengals have all of our receivers covered for the entire play.
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If the only person open is the check-down back or TE, then the plays aren't working..
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its either on Skelton
or Miller is an absolutely awful O-coordinator, who can’t design plays to get players open
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this is fucking embaressing yo.
by tucson cards fan on Dec 24, 2011 11:51 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Rhodes is back
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What happened?
How’d they get it back?
by forget on Dec 24, 2011 11:53 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Said Schofield touched it first on the radio
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Alright Santa, i've changed my x-mas list
can i have a pick 6 instead
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If our defense can even force a punt
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3rd and 3 and we give it up! c'mon D!!
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Damn it
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How the hell is that a penalty?
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"A Cardinals player touched a player from another team?
How dare he! Penalty!"
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by Skii on Dec 24, 2011 11:56 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
the Palmer rule, or the Brady rule, can't remember which one....
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I thought it was the Manning rule?
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Now we're making stupid plays...
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c'mon
how is he suppossed to see if Dalton released the ball
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Nice breakup by Rhodes!
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Those almost interceptions are getting ridiculous
Rhodes, learn how to catch.
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last three plays we have
but before that, absolutely nothing. We need to be more consistent
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wow. a little lower, and Adams would've taken that for a pick 6
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lol....true!
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
Come on D
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Missed it!!!!
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Missed it again!
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Let's go Skelton
Win us all back, and get a TD.
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So, the D is doing their job...keeping us in there. The O needs to step up
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Come on Offense, be competent
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by JoeCB1991 on Dec 24, 2011 11:59 AM MST reply actions 2 recs
thats all we need too
which makes the offensive performance today even more depressing
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jeez
opposing kicking teams just dont do well against us i love it
by BIGRED CARDINAL on Dec 24, 2011 11:59 AM MST via Android app reply actions
Oh MAN
I love our “field goal defense”
by BrazilianCardinal on Dec 24, 2011 12:01 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Nice move by Taylor...
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Because Mike Miller is our OC
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Skelton seems to be in this mode of 1 good play, 2 bad plays..
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by Cardzfan on Dec 24, 2011 12:02 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
and that one good play has to be a first down
or else we stall
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Are you kidding Taylor?
Why can’t our players ever help our QB’s out?
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Gotta catch that
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Can we just get three
by fansincejakenrob on Dec 24, 2011 12:03 PM MST via Android app reply actions
no accuracy
i am really startin to dislike skelton
by BIGRED CARDINAL on Dec 24, 2011 12:03 PM MST via Android app reply actions
What the fuck was that Skelton?
Favre like….
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Skelton Sucks
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Holy shit
That was disgusting
by fansincejakenrob on Dec 24, 2011 12:04 PM MST via Android app reply actions
get him outta there!!!!!!!
by tucson cards fan on Dec 24, 2011 12:04 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Right between the numbers
of the bengals again
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by GreaZzy on Dec 24, 2011 12:04 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Screw you, Chester Taylor.
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by OntarioCardsFan1977 on Dec 24, 2011 12:04 PM MST reply actions
Insomniac, are you here?
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How can you not see that guy, Skelton??
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
Irrational fan mode-On
I want Bartel. Or Doucet.
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LOL
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Iwas going to head to the bar for lunch.
Im not sure I want to see any more of this especially in public
by Birdman from Mesa on Dec 24, 2011 12:05 PM MST reply actions
This half can't end soon enough
we got to make some serious adjustments
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Nice to see Kolb and Skelton talking
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u still need an expanation canadian card!/!?
by tucson cards fan on Dec 24, 2011 12:06 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Skelton and the offense sure look good.
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by robloosli on Dec 24, 2011 12:06 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Oh my goodness....
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You gotta be fucking kidding me
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by GreaZzy on Dec 24, 2011 12:06 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
We deserve to miss the playoffs
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Time for one of those classic Ken-i speeches
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Who wants out more?
Doesn’t look like us
by fansincejakenrob on Dec 24, 2011 12:07 PM MST via Android app reply actions
I wonder
If we should just cut Kolb at halftime and give the reigns to the pride of Fordham. He’s putting on a clinic today.
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by robloosli on Dec 24, 2011 12:07 PM MST via mobile reply actions
The future right here
Because we can all go through another 10 years of watching this disaster of a game.
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They don't need to throw it anymore
by fansincejakenrob on Dec 24, 2011 12:08 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
NIcely done
The D isn’t giving up at least.
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by OntarioCardsFan1977 on Dec 24, 2011 12:08 PM MST reply actions
Its very simple
When Skelton fails the Skelton haters blame Skelton. When Kolb fails the Skelton haters blame Miller
I blame Miller and Skelton
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You couldn't have gotten it more wrong
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If youd like to explain Im listening
Just dont forget to mention Kolb had less than 50 passing yards in the first half in his last complete game
by Cardiac Card on Dec 24, 2011 12:19 PM MST up reply actions
I think both sides know Miller sucks
but there is blame for both QBs from both sides
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I dont hate Skelton I think he needs time to develop
by Birdman from Mesa on Dec 24, 2011 12:10 PM MST up reply actions
I agree
Skelton is making the mistakes expected for someone at this stage…I like him. He’s just not the guy
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not true
Miller’s schemes are horrible. Many say so. You cannot defend Skelton missing a WR, overthrowing, or the last INT – throwing it right to the LB..
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True but Kolb has thrown some awful passes as well
by Redbird Nation #1 on Dec 24, 2011 12:15 PM MST up reply actions
agreed
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
Wow......
He even landed on his feet
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Wow - welcome to the highlights
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That was impressive - never seen anything like that
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At least we will be on Sportscenter
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by JoeCB1991 on Dec 24, 2011 12:10 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Ok That was pretty cool....
they can have those 7..
Damn.
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by OntarioCardsFan1977 on Dec 24, 2011 12:11 PM MST reply actions
Time for a last minute 1st half TD drive by Skelton?
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I think we will be seeing Kolb next week after this
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Uh..
He’s not going to play if he still has concussion symptoms.
by KholdStare88 on Dec 24, 2011 12:13 PM MST up reply actions
I'm wondering
If they’re just using his concussion as an excuse to start Skelton.
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No he was interviewed and said he was still having problems
by Birdman from Mesa on Dec 24, 2011 12:15 PM MST up reply actions
obviously
I’ve nvr been in the NFL but Kolbs hit to the head didn’t look any worse than when one of us stand up and whack our head on something. A 4 game win streak isn’t enough to prove to me that the Cards don’t have serious issues……….maybe even character issues, idk
by defense_dad on Dec 24, 2011 12:48 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
hmmmmm
That was I was thinking when I read Kolb was out.
by defense_dad on Dec 24, 2011 12:45 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions
Unless his concussion is really srs bznz....
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by OntarioCardsFan1977 on Dec 24, 2011 12:14 PM MST up reply actions
Cardinals
And us fans just being embarrassed now…………front flip into the endzone!! WTF!!
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from the bengals forums
“Simpson sure knows how to get high”
(this is the wr that got caught by the feds with 8.5 pounds at his house)
" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."
by palewook on Dec 24, 2011 12:15 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
That's like an old Jordan dunk and Washington was the guy who got 'posterized'....
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How many times have we seen the Cardinals on the wrong side of a highlight?
by Redbird Nation #1 on Dec 24, 2011 12:13 PM MST reply actions
I really am questioning the routes...Is Cincy's coverage that good?
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according to Bengals fans
their DBs are their weakness on the team
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its the d-line making the pressure
to bust cincy’s secondary, you have to hit guys between the lb seam and secondary. reason teams run wild with TEs on the bengals and 10 yards and over the middle
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thanks guys....so....
where is the OC adjustments???
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No excuses
But anyone seeing Skelton looking less than mobile today?
by fansincejakenrob on Dec 24, 2011 12:15 PM MST via Android app reply actions
Well I hope you all liked the TD cause we're giong to be seeing it for the rest of the season
by AlaskanCard on Dec 24, 2011 12:15 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I could watch it for the rest of the season in fairness
by Irishcardinal on Dec 24, 2011 12:16 PM MST up reply actions
It's sort of like the Santonio Holmes TD for me
It’s an amazing TD, but I’m going to hate seeing it for a long, long time.
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Just like the Santonio TD
those two will be played over an over again. And both of those ended our seasons
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by GreaZzy on Dec 24, 2011 12:17 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully we got some Pepsi Max delivered.
Fitting commercial
Regardless of our QB issues
We need to fix the Oline
99 yard TD from Manning to Cruz
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That was an awful kick
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Why does skelton do this. Hes listing me as asupporter
by fansincejakenrob on Dec 24, 2011 12:18 PM MST via Android app reply actions
Miamis up 17 -0 over NE
Who do you think has a better chance of coming back?
by Birdman from Mesa on Dec 24, 2011 12:18 PM MST reply actions
NE
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Skelton sucks at road
i mean, he is not a great qb at home either, but at road he is just awful
by BrazilianCardinal on Dec 24, 2011 12:19 PM MST reply actions
Looks like PFF is right when it said that if u pressure Skelton, he's one of the worst qb's
he needs to pick it up
And NFL defense's are all about pressure
So looks like we’re screwed.
Joe Saunders: "They played a really good game, so hats off to us"
Bradshaw and Gospel Choirs
My two least favourite things.
by Irishcardinal on Dec 24, 2011 12:20 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Sack by Campbell!
Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan
Phoenix Suns, Arizona Diamondbacks, Phoenix Coyotes, Arizona Rattlers fan
[I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
Leading the NFL in swagtangibles
Even against Greenbay in the play offs?
by Birdman from Mesa on Dec 24, 2011 12:24 PM MST up reply actions
Ken-e's coaching effort first half - F A I L
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
how the in the world is Offense not executing his fault?
by CanadianCard on Dec 24, 2011 12:25 PM MST up reply actions
his hire
"Well, I liked how our guys got after it during practice this week. I thought we came out with good intensity. But then, we made a few mistakes and you can't do that and be a good football club. We'll look at the film and learn from our mistakes and get ready for this weekend." Whiz after any game.....
Well, inspiring D only gets you so far.
Losing by less is still losing. Hopefully the O makes the adjustments they have been making the last 7weeks.
Bite off more than you can chew. Then chew it! ~Courage Wolf.
by OntarioCardsFan1977 on Dec 24, 2011 12:25 PM MST reply actions
this is the same reffing crew
that threw 50 flags against peterson earlier this season. I believe they also lead the league in throwing interference flags.
If anyone wants to bother watching the rest of this
Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan
Phoenix Suns, Arizona Diamondbacks, Phoenix Coyotes, Arizona Rattlers fan
[I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
Leading the NFL in swagtangibles
Horrible play by the Cards in the 1st half.
"The point is, by my standards, I won fair and square."
-Bender
Off to Buffalo Wild Wings
Enjoy the 2nd half and Merry Christmas all
by Birdman from Mesa on Dec 24, 2011 12:28 PM MST reply actions






















