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A Case For Marc Bulger As Quarterback For The Arizona Cardinals



As we all know, and particated in many discussion about, We need a QB REALLY BAD. I've stated here before that I'm not in favor of trading for Kevin Kolb. I think he skilled, but the price is too high and I think he still has kinks to his game that need to be worked out (aka Leinart-esque). But I wanted to make a case for the other guy on Larry's wish list: Marc Bulger.

Bulger is Kurt Warner approved and has been tested vigorously by the many defenses of the NFL, and he's passed with flying colors. He plays the same game as Warner (reads the defense well, accurate, quick release, and spreads the ball around), he just doesn't play at as high a level as Warner did.

So would you be for or against signing him?

I think he would be a good stop gap to develop John Skelton, and he would give this team the best chance to win over the other available QB options, and I think that's paramount on a team where the core players are either in their primes or are getting close to retiring. I think the only real downside is that he is injury prone. This team has too many big needs (i.e. OLB, OL, ILB) to give up high, early round draft picks for a player like Kolb. So let me know what you guys think, for or against?

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These are highlights from 2009, so don't think I'm just putting up video from Bulger's Pro Bowl days. lol I think you all should recognize a lot of these passes and see the the similarities between Marc Bulger and Kurt Warner. Remember, he's the only other QB to really have success in Mike Martz's offense.

 

Here's the link if the video isn't there. I'm still kind of figuring this out.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Revenge of the Birds' (ROTB) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of ROTB's editors.

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Warner is a reporter now.

He has to keep his pc-ness up to keep his job. Just because he was a great player does not mean that he knows all about every player. You can see Bulger has given up. Was painfully clear in St. Louis, and he stood in the back in Baltimore.

by tallfreak on May 4, 2011 4:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

If we can get Kevin Kolb for a 2nd Round pick

And maybe a little more, then I want him over anyone.

But if the Eagles officially say they want a 1st Round pick for him, then I guess I can go for Marc Bulger.

Maybe even Donovan McNabb, if he’s cut. But, if we don’t get Kevin Kolb, then I want us to draft a QB like Colin Kaepernick in the later rounds.

by Skii on Feb 23, 2011 5:38 PM MST reply actions  

Video

Reminds me of Warner….and he hit some beautiful deep throws on St. Louis’ number 11…Imagine the results of Bulger hitting our number 11, toss in Roberts, and Williams, Now I really think Williams could be everything Fitz is with a little extra speed, but like many of our other receivers the poor QB accuracy left them hanging to get drilled.

by Cardsfan928 on Feb 23, 2011 6:32 PM MST reply actions  

DO NOT COMPARE ANYONE TO FITZ!!!!

Fitz is Fitz and there will be nobody that comes close for a long time. I have hope for the receivers we have, but come on now. That was not a god statement.

by tallfreak on May 4, 2011 4:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Looking at the scores...

They are getting blown out in quite a few of these highlights.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

by JoeCB1991 on Feb 23, 2011 9:43 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

I want Bulger

But I want another option as well, either Kolb or Orton. I like what Bulger has shown but I’m still not sold that he is still the same guy as back then. I’d love to see him battle with another vet for the starting spot and keep Skelton in the third, developmental spot for a couple years.

by Birdman from Mesa on Feb 23, 2011 11:07 PM MST reply actions  

High draft picks

Recent history has shown we have not done a great job in the early rounds of the draft. Plus the washout of high draft picks is like 50%. I would rather trade for a guy like kolb were we have an idea of what we are getting then take yet another project at the qb position. I’d trade our next three 1rst rounders for a stud qb who is young.

by fitzfan04 on Feb 24, 2011 12:34 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

If the QB is a guarunteed success

Then maybe three 1st Round picks would make sense. I want Kevin Kolb too, but not for one 1st Round pick. At the most, a 2nd Round pick, and a conditional pick in next year’s Draft.

by Skii on Feb 24, 2011 4:08 PM MST up reply actions  

correct me if I'm wrong

but prior to Sam Bradford’s arrival weren’t the Rams pretty much the worst team in the league for 5 or 6 years? Yea I suppose if getting the Number One overall pick, I guess Bulger is the guy

Kurt Warner approved? what does that mean? Kurt isn’t affiliated with this team anymore maybe he wants to cement his legacy as the best Cardinals QB ever he already knows Bulger can instantly turn a once proud team into a steaming pile of sh#t

Orton or Kolb sound good, if not I would rather give the ball to Skelton, even if it is tough season of hard knocks but will give him real time experience. It still sounds better than suffering through an entire season with a has been, who was never that good to begin with. Didn’t we learn anything from the DA experiment? A crappy QB from a crappy team doesn’t get better with a change of scenery. We got lucky with Warner, lets play some one young and able or develop someone who can actually play.

Chicago Cubs - Arizona Cardinals 167 combined years and no rings
I guess I'm a masochist

by TBru on Feb 24, 2011 8:26 PM MST reply actions  

The Rams

Went downhill as a product that they didn’t replace the talent they had. Not the QB play. When the players around him were good, even mediocre he played like playoff material.

by Handsome Bert on Feb 27, 2011 10:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Seriously

The Offensive Line (Orlando Pace) went to hell, Faulk declined due to injuries, and Holt/Bruce were starting to slow down due to their age.

With Bradford, their passing offense also seemed to change into nothing but 5 yard passes as a way of making up for their receivers being unable to get deep separation even though Bradford has the talent to make all the throws.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

by JoeCB1991 on Feb 28, 2011 12:02 AM MST up reply actions  

hit enter too soon

If Bulger is our best hope, I hope their is a lockout

Chicago Cubs - Arizona Cardinals 167 combined years and no rings
I guess I'm a masochist

by TBru on Feb 24, 2011 8:27 PM MST reply actions  

yes the Rams were bad

But NOT because of Bulger. During those shit years that team had basically Steven Jackson and Bulger. Thats it. Last year Bulger was injured so I’m throwing it out, and in 2009 Stl had the 2nd worst Def in the league(only Detroit was worse)

All in all, Here is my ranked list of QB of want:
1. Kobb(only if 1st round pick isn’t traded)
2. Orton
3. Bulger
4. Skelton
5. Draft(any of them)
6. McNabb
7. Kobb(if we DO give up first round pick)
8. Vince Young(yuk)

by Will Smith on Feb 25, 2011 8:34 AM MST up reply actions  

I meant

2008 year.
And now i’m reading that Orton is starting and Tim is a backup. So we will see if he can be traded for. Also i’m not 100% the Eagles even wanna give up Kobb. So if you scratch them out, your left with Bulger and Skelton, which isn’t that bad. Bulger can be used as a short term mentor until Skelton is ready, like Warner Leinart.

by Will Smith on Feb 25, 2011 8:40 AM MST up reply actions  

uh....

Let’s hope it doesn’t end up like Warner Leinart, I want Skelton to become elite…

by Cardsfan928 on Feb 25, 2011 5:16 PM MST reply actions  

ANYBODY will be an upgrade...

Over the 2010 QB squad. I think John Skelton is the future, but he needs another year or two. Richard Bartel looked heads and shoulders better than Max Hall. And Derek Anderson should be hog-tied and left out in the desert. With Marc Bulger under center, the Cards would be the class of the NFC West and would let the defense play downhill, for a change. Adding a pass-rusher like Von Miller would only make the D even more exciting!

I’d be really excited to have Marc Bulger as the #1 on the depth chart, backed up by John Skelton and Richard Bartel. Then again, I’d be happy with Kyle Orton or Kevin Kolb, as well. But, just about ANY capable QB will lead the Cards to the division crown.

by Eric M on Feb 26, 2011 9:47 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Richard Bartel made some good throws

When they brought him out in the last game, so if we don’t draft a QB, then I say keep him as the #3 QB.

by Skii on Feb 26, 2011 11:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Then he turned into garbage as soon as he got into the red zone.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

by JoeCB1991 on Feb 27, 2011 10:29 AM MST up reply actions  

Still, pretty good

For someone who hadn’t played all season (Had he even played in the NFL up until then?).

by Skii on Feb 27, 2011 10:51 AM MST up reply actions  

Just the Preseason

That bomb to Fitz was pretty sweet though.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

by JoeCB1991 on Feb 27, 2011 2:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Bulger

..to me makes more sense than Kolb. Kolb would be great for a lower cost, but I’m just too enamored of our #5 pick to even consider trading it away. I agree with Eric that with Bulger tossing the ball we would once again rule the NFC West. I don’t think he’s a good long term solution, but I’m not fascinated with the QB’s in this draft (sure that will come back to bite me in the ass). Upgrade our QB, pass rush and some help at left tackle and I think we are in the run again.

"The true test of a person's intellligence is how much they agree with you."

by pthesz on Feb 26, 2011 11:47 PM MST reply actions  

oh yeah ...

GO CARDS!

"The true test of a person's intellligence is how much they agree with you."

by pthesz on Feb 26, 2011 11:48 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

I'm not sure about Bulger

if he can make the quick reads, and still wants to play, then yes. It may work for a couple of years.
Othewrise, I’d prefer going with Kolb, who would be more of the longer term solution. I really don’t want to give up our first round pick, but after watching last year, I just think the QB position is the key and it needs and requires significant upgrade. If we think Kolb can be the guy to do it, then do what you need to do to upgrade the position.

I do think Skelton shows promise. But I think he needs to be developed. I don’t think he has the skills (or the line protection) to learn on the job….

by Cardzfan on Feb 27, 2011 8:13 AM MST reply actions  

Getting a new QB is all well and good however, if the current O-line stays as it is then a new QB will be meaningless. One of the main reasons the QBs failed last year was because the O-line couldn’t stop a pee wee defense. When the QB is playing from the shotgun and the O-line is getting pushed back into him time and time again, does it mean the QB stinks or does it mean the O-line is weak. As far as getting Bulger or Kolb, Kolb is unproven, he’s only started what 7 or 8 games and he has more picks than TDs, behind a better O-line and Bulger is getting old and I don’t believe his body can handle a full season of starting behind the current O-line.

by Steve n NC on Feb 27, 2011 8:25 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

The Cardinals gave up more sacks in under 3 seconds than any other team last season

Sums up how much fail was in the O-Line last season.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

by JoeCB1991 on Feb 27, 2011 10:30 AM MST up reply actions  

completely agree

not sure how you can have a discussion on the QB situation and not mention the OL. The OL is such an issue, to me, that I’m starting to warm up to Tryon Smith, the OT from USC, as our first round pick.

by KDean75 on Feb 28, 2011 7:14 AM MST up reply actions  

watching the combine

And mallet looks like a 5th pick qb he is drilling it

The Devil Birds just got cha

by DaCards on Feb 27, 2011 12:36 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Scary thought

I had never even contemplated the Cards drafting Mallet…I’m wishing I was able to see what you guys saw

"When life gives you lemons, I say f**k the lemons and bail."

by SGM on Feb 28, 2011 7:23 PM MST up reply actions  

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