What Went Wrong With Matt Leinart For The Cardinals?
Now that Horton is here and the coaching staff is pretty much settled there isn't really a lot to talk about besides stuff like we have already been talking about Free Agency, Trades (Kevin Kolb, Carson Palmer, Kyle Orton), or the Draft along with the possibility of there not even being a 2011 NFL Season. So, now that we have had a while to reflect on this after the debacle that occurred between Matt Leinart and Coach Whisenhunt, I thought this could be something to get a good debate out of everyone around here. I'm wondering what you guys think went wrong with him during his time with the Cardinals.
Now, lets go over some of the good and some of the bad after the jump...
Throughout Training Camp and the Offseason, all we heard about was how much Leinart has grown up since his injury in 2007, how hard he has been working, how the Team and Coach Whiz believed in him, and how he was going to be the guy this year. Everything seemed like it was going well until the second game of the Preseason against the Titans (which was also a nationally televised game on ESPN) where Leinart didn't pick up a 1st down in either of his three drives, and Derek Anderson moved the second team offense well even though his accuracy issues were still rearing their ugly head. After that, Leinart was demoted to second string as a way of seeing how the offense handled the change, then a little bit later Leinart spoke out to the media about how frustrated he was with the entire situation, how he thought he outperformed Anderson in the Preseason (and just looking at the stats, he did), and how he was never told that there would be a competition between him and Anderson, and how he should have been told that from the beginning. Around this time, there were some leaks that the team had no faith in Leinart, that he was too laid back, and Cris Carter also said that he thinks Larry Fitzgerald might think that Leinart could get him hurt after a play in the first Preseason game where Fitz was injured after a pass from Leinart. Then, after the fourth Preseason game, Leinart was cut, he went on to sign with the Texans as their third Quarterback, and the Cardinals decided to ride with Anderson, Hall, and Skelton. What ensued is best forgotten.
This was a pretty disappointing turn of events, Leinart was a pretty divisive figure during his time with the Cardinals, but a lot of people (including myself) wanted to see him get a shot to see what he could do in the Post Warner era, and after seeing what the other four guys the Cardinals used last season did, how much worse could he be? After watching Derek Anderson play, it makes you think that Leinart must have been so bad that he just stumbles around on the field drooling over himself.
Looking at Leinart, I felt that a lot of this drama came from him not being the right fit for the Offensive system that Coach Whisenhunt wanted to run. In his Rookie year, he played pretty well in Denny Greens West Coast Offense on what was not really a good team. But then in 2007, besides his game against the Seahawks during the 4th Quarter of the Steelers game he did not play well in his first year under Whisenhunt's offense (you can also say similar things about Warner not playing as well in Green's offense as he did with Whisenhunt's). The whole Quarterback shuffle in 2007 before his broken collarbone and the constant battles for his job (even with Brian St. Pierre in 2009!) aren't necessarily good things for the confidence of a young Quarterback. Just comparing how he played from 2006 and then looking at how he played during the Preseason and what you hear from the Training Camp practices he also seemed more tentative like he was worried about making mistakes and he could have thought that if he did make a mistake he would get pulled. It also did seem like Whisenhunt and Leinart never got along very well, something that Anquan Boldin hinted at last September.
The things that are normally brought up with Leinart, like the hot tub pictures or his work ethic (there are a lot of comments about him partying his way out of the NFL) didn't seem like a problem to me. I can't think of anything similar to the hot tub pictures he did ever since those came out, and everything we heard was that he was more mature coming into this year, and how his work ethic was one of the things that he improved on the most since the time he came here. Leinart even talked about how much being around Warner helped him work harder and study the game more. Like I said above, the biggest problem I saw with Leinart was that he was being too tentative, and he seemed less confident than he used to be.
I still do think that he can be a good Quarterback in this league too. It all depends on the system he is in though. He would fit the best in the West Coast Offense, or some type of balanced offense that can run and throw, which is actually what a lot of us were expecting going into last season. But who would have expected us to throw on seemingly every play when you have a Quarterback who was one of the worst in the NFL during the 2009 Season with the Browns before he came here? Looking at the Titans game from 2009 shows you what Leinart can do, he is accurate in the short and intermediate passing game, he is good with Playaction passes and bootlegs, and he doesn't make a lot of the stupid throws that wind up being Intercepted. But, he also only has an average arm. He can throw deep, but it isn't necessarily his strength. Pretty much the opposite of what you were getting with Derek Anderson, he had the big arm and he was willing to take more chances that can lead to big plays, but he was inaccurate and he also had the frustrating tendency to be the kind of Quarterback that could make a beautiful deep pass on one play, then on the very next play he could chuck it right into the arms of a Linebacker or a Defensive Back.
I was looking forward to seeing if Leinart could prove that he was worth taking in the first round back in 2006, but now I'm just left wondering what he could have done because he didn't really get a shot with anything besides leading the offense in a couple of Preseason games with playbooks that are probably less complex than what you would see in a High School game and we never got to see what he could do in the games that actually mattered. He could have led the Cardinals to the playoffs (it would have only takes 7 wins this year!), or he could have fallen flat on his face like Anderson did. But now, we will never know and the Cardinals are stuck trying to find a new Quarterback along with filling a bunch of other holes on their roster after a very disappointing 5-11 season where they constantly found new ways to lose.
I am also interested in seeing if Leinart does get a shot at being a starter with another team someday. I want to see if he plays well which will annoy me a little bit because he will then wind up joining so many other Cardinals who wound up having more success with another team. And if he plays poorly, then I will know that the Cardinals made the right choice by letting him go.
So, what do you think?
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I was excitied to watch Matt Leinart play
Then he got cut. I think he can still perform well in the league, but it depends on what team he’s on.
In my opinion, the reason he was cut was because there was no trust between him and Coach Whiz. If a QB and Coach don’t get along, one of them has to go. It was either Matt Leinart or Coach Whiz, and at that point, the clear choice to the FO/Coaching Staff was Matt Leinart.
He would’ve been a decent QB if we’d kept him, and that would’ve been us, not Seattle, in the Playoffs.
Poor Matt
Dude didn’t get tha chance he deserved !!!!!!!!!!!!!! You don’t win a Heisman cause ya can’t play !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He wasn’t whiz’s guy n that was that . Being born n Ohio and a die hard Browns fan , I cringed when we signed Anderson !!! I’ve lived n Az. 14 years now and tha Cardinals are my team now and I love coach whiz but … Matt got short changed and I think coach ruined him as a QB !!! Sorry Matt … I think ya go screwed !!! Hope you have invested your money wisely cause NFL definetly stands for Not For Long :(
Heisman?
HA go look up the last 5 or so Heisman winners and tell me how good thei NFL career is/was. go ahead ill wait.
heisman
@will
ok here goes:
2010 Cam Newton:Not an NFL player
2009 Mark Ingram:Not an NFL player
2008 – Sam Bradford 3000+ passing yards as a rookie
2007 – Tim Tebow 5 td passes 6 td rushes as a backup and will compete for a starting role next season.
2006 – Troy Smith – 5th round pick from baltimore. Worked his way into a part time starting role for the 49ers. (arguably preformed better than alex smith)
2005 – reggie bush – 2008 pro bowl selection 4232 total yards (career) hurt much of 2011 season
So although heisman trophy winers usually don’t preform spectacularly they often perform reasonably well in the NFL. Matt blew his opportunities early in career with his partying but his maturation and hard work were never rewarded with a fair shot at the starting role. Anyone who thinks Matt wasn’t a better choice for the starting job than derek anderson or max hall is just dumb
by Paul Gonzalez on Mar 21, 2011 1:08 PM MDT up reply actions
this made me laugh
Matt was more interested in drinking beer and partying then he was in studying his play book … its no mystery
he got away with it in college, but in the pro’s if you have slow foot speed and poor arm strength you have to be that much smarter than everyone else … and Matt never put the time or the effort into being a starter
in short … Matt did this to himself, and he left coach whiz with no choice but to cut him
Ps
Matt will never be an NFL starter … anywhere
he’s a career back-up at best
by quid pro quo on Feb 24, 2011 5:09 AM MST up reply actions
we miss u Leinart
When U try to hurt a player whether it be on the field or in the media, you are a no good person. AND i AM TALKING ABOUT WHISENHUNT, who made plans with Fisher in the second pre-season game, to blitz Leinart and the cardinals every single play Leinart was in there. He still completed 4-6 passes with just 1.3 seconds to throw the ball each time. And even though the running game was in negative yardage while Leinart was in the game, we didn’t here about that because this was a U.S.C. Leinart thing, which every one knows about the U.S.C./ Whisenhunt hate thing, and Whiz didn’t draft Leinart. It’s a good thing that we got Warner when Leinart got hurt, to take over for him when he was hurt, (not lost his job to) like these sorry reporters have tried to say. The real focus should have been stated on how sorry our offensive line has been since Russ Grimm stepped in as Offensive line coach, and how terrible the play calling was, and how Warner had to audible 75% of the plays Whiz called. So since Whiz didn’t like Leinart and since Leinart did the same thing as Warner (audible) Whiz down-played Leinart and formed a dirty scheme with Fisher to make Leinart look bad. Thats as dirty as it gets in the N.F.L. Cards fans, I wouldn’t expect to much out of the Cardinals until Whiz and his bunch are out of Arizona. There’s not another Warner out there to make Whiz look good. No wander Pittsburg didn’t want him. It shows
Are you kidding me?
Whiz didn’t game-plan with Fisher to screw Leinart over. They stayed in Nashville for an extra week which gave the Titan coaching staff time to analyze Leinart. WIth the arm strength of a 8 year old girl and indecisiveness, all they had to do was blitz him and we’d turn the ball over. What? You thought Leinart could read a defense and stretch the field on man coverage while the Titans sent 7? Leinart’s problem was a sense of entitlement and thought he should be the unquestioned starter after being taken with the 10th pick. Whiz has made it clear, you have to earn it before we give it to you. Beanie Wells is learning that now
by cardinalbrown on Feb 24, 2011 10:37 AM MST up reply actions
people have already forgotten
that (other than the superbowl run) Warner wasn’t that good here either … he was a roller-coaster ride at best
by quid pro quo on Feb 24, 2011 12:45 PM MST up reply actions
can you say idiot
my god you are dumb go back and look at the league leaders of 2008 and 2009 for the qb’s and maybe your stupidity will change.
I think he was talking about 05 and 06
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
by JoeCB1991 on Feb 24, 2011 3:02 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
the year Kurt took us to the Superbowl
Matt was the projected starter in camp
by quid pro quo on Feb 24, 2011 5:44 PM MST up reply actions
message to quer pro quo
U obviously don’t watch or know much about the Cardinals, but Leinart was a good football player, and was doing really good since his 2007 flashy marketing promotion. With 3 years behind Warner, he was ready to come out and show everyone he was a changed person and ready to lead his team to another division championship by having the second best Q.B. passer rating and the second best completion % in the N.F.L.during this while blown-out attack on him by Whisenhunt. If U don’t know what you are tsalking about, U probably shouldn’t say anything, DUMB-ASS!
Totally agree with you
Most of the people who say Leinart is no good are just repeating what they have heard from the national media. Its obvious they never really watched him play. He threw for over 400 yards against the Vikings and had a couple of games with a rating over 100. Remind me again, how many times did Anderson even sniff 100? Whisenhunt really knee capped his team this year by letting his ego interfere with what gave his team the best chance to win. Lets say Leinart only listened to 20% of the advice Warner gave him. That still makes him 20% better. Pete Caroll said when Leinart and Cassell were in a competition at USC that both were floundering until he named Leinart the starter, then Leinart “flipped the switch” and we all know the rest. 2 National Championships and a Heisman. I hope he gets another chance somewhere else to shut up all you naysayers who just repeat what other people have said.
by Redbird Nation #1 on Feb 24, 2011 10:38 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Foot in the Mouth
Leinart was doing really good since 2007? C’mon the guy couldn’t even be supportive of Kurt and help with breaking down the defensive schemes. That’s why we kept St. Pierre. Whiz never attacked Leinart, but the problem the media and ML had was he never named Leinart the starter. How you say he was doing good dumbfounds me. What stats are you looking at? W-L as a starter from 2008 he’s 0-1. Not a lot to look at. Hell, all 32 teams want to know what you see in Leinart because only 1 team took a flyer on him. A 1 year deal to be the 3rd stringer behind Dan “I ran out the back of the endzone” Orlovsky. Now that shows some confidence in the bum we wasted our 10th pick on
by cardinalbrown on Feb 24, 2011 10:45 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
All these stats can be found on nfl.com
Some Leinart #’s from his rookie year
Week 5 vs KC: 22/35 253yds 2 td / 1 int
Monday Night Meltdown: 24/42 232yds 2 td/ 0 int
Week 11 vs Det: 19/29 233 yds 1 td / 0 int
Week 12 vs Minn: 31/51 405 yds 1 td/ 2 int
Week 13 vs Stl: 15/24 186 yds 1 td/ 0 int
Week 14 vs Sea: 21/34 232 yds 2 td / 1 int
Week 15 vs SF: 9/13 162 yds 1 td / 0 int
Pretty good numbers for a rookie if you ask me
by Redbird Nation #1 on Feb 24, 2011 5:25 PM MST up reply actions
And his first Touchdown
49 yard bomb to Boldin on his second pass in the KC game.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
Yeah he flashed potential as a rook
Heck, I was a Leinart supporter from draft day until he was cut. Now that he’s gone I think we’re better off (as sad as that is). The earlier post was referring to Leinart’s success after 2007. That’s the time period I was asking what stats made him look good. I made a post in another thread giving kudos to Leinart having the rookie yards record. But like I said there, yards don’t translate to wins
by cardinalbrown on Feb 24, 2011 7:38 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
sticks and stones
I’ve been at training camp for 20 years … and I always watch the QB battles at camp
every year Matt was here he came into camp as the projected starter, there was even talk about it his rookie year … and every year he failed to preform, and other guys were clearly better
trust me, I was someone who defended him for several years, although, I don’t know why. Words that were always used about Matt were ‘intangibles’ and ’he’s a winner’, and ‘he knows how to win’. And that was all very true of him in college. But he never showed it in the pro’s. In practice or in a game. He was slow at reading defenses, he was slow getting to his spot, he has a slow release, he doesn’t get good zip on the ball, and he’s not very accurate. And on top of it he felt like he should just be handed the starter position, so he could ‘prove’ himself, please. I did see some improvement in Matt, but at game speed his throws were still consistently late. And for me, last pre-season when he hung Larry out to dry across the middle to get t-boned, I was done with the guy.
dude … last training camp he got beat out by Derrek Anderson(nuff said?) … and not by a little, by allot … he was awful
maybe, if Matt decides to make football a priority in his life, he might become a decent back-up someday … but I doubt it
by quid pro quo on Feb 24, 2011 1:07 PM MST up reply actions
How many of the practices did you go to last year
I went to one the first weekend (their first day in the Skydome) and I thought that Leinart and Anderson both looked alright, and from what was reported by Urban and Somers Leinart was better than Anderson in the practices.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I was there
from day 1 Skelton was the talk, his size and arm strength, and how raw he was … but that first week I think everyone thought Matt would come to camp ready to assume the starter job, and he was unimpressive
I know I talked some crap about Warner above, but I’ll say this … Kurt always came to training camp ready to play, and the guy did his home work, he wanted it … I’ve never seen that fire from Matt, he’s still waiting for someone to hand it to him
by quid pro quo on Feb 24, 2011 5:49 PM MST up reply actions
Also, even some of the best QBs have gotten their Wide Receivers laid out much worse than Fitz was on that pass
Look at Boldins broken jaw in 2008.
With the Fitz injury, I blame that on the rules forcing defenders to go low because they can’t hit anywhere else now without getting fined.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
true
But Warner was much more consistent, and had good velocity on his passes … Matt drove coaches crazy with timing and seam passes, because he was consistently late … and he never had the confidence of any of our WR’s
by quid pro quo on Feb 24, 2011 5:57 PM MST up reply actions
When the coach tells you and everyone else before the season that your going to start
you should expect to be the starter. He earned the chance to start this year because he sat behind Kurt and didnt open his mouth. If Leinart was going to fail, the least Whisenhunt could of done was let all of us WATCH him fail. After watching Anderson and Hall youll excuse me if I dont put a lot of stock in Whisenhunts judgement of QBs
by Redbird Nation #1 on Feb 24, 2011 4:57 PM MST up reply actions
Whiz asked him to be his back-up
and Matt cried like a baby about it … if I blame whiz for anything its not anticipating that Matt would quit on the team if he wasn’t made the starter … it was a lockeroom decision to cut Matt, you can’t keep a poison around to undermine
by quid pro quo on Feb 24, 2011 5:54 PM MST up reply actions
If he would have kept quiet
He would have gotten a chance to start again too. Anderson was benched (for the first time) during the fourth game against the Chargers, and after that Leinart probably would have gotten a few games to see what he could do.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
by JoeCB1991 on Feb 24, 2011 6:04 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
With Quid….Leinart is a backup at best if he really were ready to start it would only be for a bigger paycheck…..C’mon now he could not even beat Orlovsky down the depth chart in Houston
are you kidding me?
You’re still talking about Leinart? WTF?
by KDean75 on Feb 24, 2011 7:49 AM MST reply actions 4 recs
One Man to Blame
Ken Whisenhunt is 100% to blame for last season’s fiasco. There is no doubt in my mind that the Cardinals would have made the playoffs had Leinart been given a chance but “Whiz” torpedoed the season because of his ego (reports of Leinart dismissing Whisenhunt as an autograph seeker at the Super Bowl surfaced shortly after his hiring and it seems as if he never let that go). His handling of the QB situation last season was childish and extremely unprofessional – behavior that is inexcusable from a coach at any level.
As a Cardinal fan since birth (way back to STL), I was amazed and excited about the success that Whisenhunt had here, but I’m beginning to believe that that was more a product of Warner than it was of Whisenhunt. I hope I’m wrong, but I think he should be on an extremely short leash/hot seat this upcoming season.
http://overzealousfan.blogspot.com
I've never heard of that before actually.
Got a link to a story about the autograph thing anywhere?
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
Discussed briefly here
http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/f4/two-things-i-havent-seen-discussed-156739.html
Message board post, I know. I distinctly remember Bickley writing something about it right around when Whisenhunt was hired (all archives that old are behind pay-wall at Republic’s site) and have heard it discussed here and there since.
http://overzealousfan.blogspot.com
Many people make Whiz to be some ego maniac
But in every news conference I have watched (and I have watched them all) Whisenhunt does not come off as egotistical. I highly, highly doubt Whiz had a vendetta against ML. Whiz wants to win, that’s all and ML wasn’t doing the things necessary to win.
Whiz is not solely to blame, the FO bares as much or more weight in the decision.
ML is a bust because he couldn’t beat out DA in training camp. Not because of some made up personal vendetta. It’s that simple.
by Jesse Reynolds on Feb 25, 2011 5:35 AM MST up reply actions
Right, because Derek Anderson looked so great in the preseason
Any impartial observer would have seen just how incredibly shitty Anderson was from day one. Leinart performed markedly better in all aspects but wasn’t given anywhere near a fair, or even, opportunity.
I’m not saying that Leinart is a pro bowl qb, but to think that Anderson legitimately beat him out is laughable.
Whisenhunt more or less runs the front office – all decisions go through him. It was his ego that made him think he could “fix” Anderson and it was his ego that torpedoed the Cardinals 2010 season before it got started.
http://overzealousfan.blogspot.com
I remember one time Kent Somers was on SportsCenter and he told the anchor lady that Anderson hasn't even threatened Leinart yet
And that anyone who has been watching practice every day has seen that. I think this was around the time of the Titans Monday Night game too.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
Exactly
I don’t know how anyone can claim that Leinart got legitimately beat out by Anderson, especially “not by a little, but by a lot.” That doesn’t jibe with any actual observation of their play that I’ve heard of. Anderson did nothing to earn the starting job, it was simply handed to him.
That Make Sense?!?!?!?!
Whisenhunt wanted to run the ball, so he dropped a QB who probably couldn’t complete a 40yd pass. So he went with QB who couldn’t complete a 5yd toss, not a pass, a toss and still went with the passing game 70% of the time. That Makes Sense.
Leinart will never be good
what have you seen from him that make you think he will be good. The reports about him working hard came very year, and the same results came every year. Where we messed up was siging Anderson, instead of an actual QB, like Hill, or someone of that nature.
NATIVEWOOD-Good Call!
Matt should have been allowed to play out the season. Bad move by Whiz and the Cardinal front office. it was not that long ago no QB’s were selected until the 3erd round and we selected a LB that walked off our team, becouse he was not going to play for us.
If Whiz had a problem with Matt, then he should have paid more attention to the QB possition earlier than he did or traded Matt the year before.
we will never know
Leinart had moments of brillance. was he perfect no, no one is. if the worst thing he did was being in a hot tub with college girls, then i think he did ok. look at some of the things other players have done, leads me to think what was the big deal. Leinart is better than DA, Skelton and Hall, Lienart is more accurate than suck @$$ anderson. until Whiz or someone from the front office, we will never know exactly why Matt was cut. it might have been due to the cards not wanting to pay that bonus.
I believe he can be successful
I don’t even need the safety net of the third option. He needs a fresh start somewhere.
If we had gotten a decent alternative for Leinart last season
One who had given us even mediocre QB play, Leinart being cut wouldn’t be nearly the sore spot that is still discussed among Cardinals fans today. But because his replacements were SO inept (and many of us could see that going in), our season was forfeited while we watched a bad team make history by winning the West with a losing record. That’s about as low as it gets so it will ALWAYS be a sore spot. Period. The Cardinals should have been 3-time division champs had our QB situation not been spectacularly mismanaged on all sides.
I blame Whisenhunt, Leinart, and pretty much everyone else involved for not acting like grown men and resolving the situation sensibly. I think Leinart is a very mediocre QB, but one who was still capable of helping us to a 8-8 record and another division title. We would have been labeled the worst playoff team in history again, but we’re used to that and I’d take it over last place any day. And for those who insist that Leinart would have done no better than Anderson/Hall, suit yourself, but I’m quite confident that he would have outperformed that miserable duo — just by being his mediocre self.
I agree
The team in general is to blame for last years fiasco, not one man.
Cutting ML was a mistake and I hated the signing of DA but supported him because I believed Whiz knew what he was doing. He benched ML in favor of Warner, even when Warner was suppose to be washed up. Obviously Whiz and the FO made a huge mistake this time.
by Jesse Reynolds on Feb 25, 2011 5:40 AM MST up reply actions
The whole thing was mis-managed by Whiz
Lots of good comments by many.
My feeling has always been this is on Whiz and the FO for mismanaging and miscalculating the skills for the QB position. If you didn’t like Matt as the guy, then you should have cut him or traded him the day Warner retired, or make the moves that needed to occur. The whole thing was mismanaged, and it does appear personalities and egos had a lot to do with it (to include Matt). I know the critique on Matt’s arm strength, but I do think he could’ve been a game-manager and it is ironic the very thing he was criticized for was the thing Anderson couldn’t do (hit the short check-down pass)……We’ll never know, but with Matt at QB, I think we go 8-8 or 9-7.
Most people would agree the QB is the most important position on the team. How many NFL teams ever went into the season with a new guy (who was still learning the offense) and 2 rookies as back-ups(one from a small school and the other a FA) at the QB position? It was a disaster waiting to happen…..
Matt should have been given the chance. Pre-season was and is a joke to assess performance – just an excuse to cut him. If that was Whiz’ intention, why not make a move before camp even started? Whiz thought he could ‘coach up’ DA. It didn’t happen.
Its done and hopefully Whiz learned a painful lesson. I will always blame him for this past season.
I think Matt will probably float around the league as a back-up, and it would take an injury and the right situation for him to ever be the considered a starter in the league. That’s just how the NFL rolls….
Most people seem to forget the other variables in Matt's demise.
1. Matt had a 2011 salary of over $10 million. There was no way they were gonna pay a mediocre QB at best that amount of money. That leads to my next point.
2. Whiz had a philosophy of drafting a player’s replacement a year before it was time to deal with their contract. In this case Matt was never in good graces with the coach so he was doomed from the start. In comes DA who nobody expected to suck this bad. Matt was expendable. We expected to see a more balanced rushing attack with the long ball a strong possibility with all of our speedy receivers. Just didn’t work that way.
If you don't have anything good to say about the Cards this season, you'd be correct.
by hevchv on Feb 25, 2011 8:21 AM MST via mobile reply actions
There are thousands of fans in Cleveland that beg to differ.
In comes DA who nobody expected to suck this bad.
http://overzealousfan.blogspot.com
I'm liking how close this poll has been
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
ML topic always bring out intense passion on both sides of supporter/nonsupporters
I AGREE with every posts above. HE would have gotten us to the playoff. But that would force FO to pay him an exobitant $$$ to keep him. Hell, we will never know the truth so just LET IT GO. What would happen to Coach WHIZ if we ended up at the bottom of the division again? please don’t tell me you would be excited for a crack at LUCK.
I was looking at some of the old videos on azcardinals.com
And its amazing how quickly things changed after watching some of the videos like this one.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
the good news
well at least this story shows that the Cards fans still have passion. i just hope the front office make some good moves to make up for the lost season. my solution, pick up Bulger (or Young, Kolb, Palmer, et al), draft a qb or Miller, pick up some O-line help, move Brown to RT. CUT anderson.

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