Arizona Cardinals Stat Junkie: OLB 2009 vs 2010
It's easy for any fan of the NFL to know that the defense for the Arizona Cardinals didn't meet the hype that was built up after the acquisition of Joey Porter and Kerry Rhodes. But what is not as apparent is how effective was Joey Porter when compared to the numbers that were expected of the position and players that he replaced. To do this we can turn to the stats and compare retired Cardinals Bertrand Berry and Chike Okeafor 2009 production to Joey Porter's 2010 production.
We know that Joey Porter's presence did not live up to the hype that surrounded his arrival. But is there potentially a role for Porter with the 2011 Cardinals? More after the jump...
| Year | Team |
GP |
TOT |
SOLO |
AST |
PD |
SACK |
FF |
REC |
INT |
TD |
| 2010 |
ARI | 14 | 50 | 38 | 12 | 0 | 5.0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
To begin we'll take a look at Bert and Chike's 2009 Stats to see what they provided to the team. We all know that stat's can not tell the entire story regarding the player or their contributions, but with the help of our collective memories and game footage from NFL.com and Youtube it will help provide a better sense of the intangibles that a player can bring to a team.
| Year | Team |
GP |
TOT |
SOLO |
AST |
PD |
SACK |
FF |
REC |
INT |
TD |
| 2009 |
ARI |
15 |
10 |
9 |
1 |
0 |
6.0 |
0 |
7 |
0 |
0 |
| Year | Team |
GP |
TOT |
SOLO |
AST |
PD |
SACK |
FF |
REC |
INT |
TD |
| 2009 |
ARI |
13 |
47 |
35 |
12 |
1 |
4.5 |
2 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
| Year | Team |
GP |
TOT |
SOLO |
AST |
PD |
SACK |
FF |
REC |
INT |
TD |
| 2010 |
ARI |
14 |
50 |
38 |
12 |
0 |
5.0 |
2 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
Cardinals Defense Ranking 2009: Rushing 17th, Sacks 6th
Cardinals Defense Ranking 2010: Rushing 30th, Sacks T-18th
At first glance we see that Bert Berry and Chike Okeafor individually were elder Cardinals who provided 15 and 13 games of support. Their stats show that Berry provided just a blip on the map for tackling, but had a way to get to the QB with 6 sacks. Okeafor while constantly fighting nagging injuries had 35 solo tackles and 12 assist, and still manage 4.5 sacks.
What is not shown in the stats, but is shown on film is the ability to affect the running game. Most of Chike's solo tackles were Running Backs running to the right side being chased by Karlos Dansby or Gerald Hayes. Berry's pressure on the left side would engage the LT and keep him from opening up the running lanes causing runners to attack our weakest point in 2009, the center of the field. Which accumulated for the majority of the 20+ yard gains in 2009.
Joey's production in 2010 was very similar to Chike Okeafor in 2009, for around six times the expense (Porter: $6M - 2010 vs Okeafor: $1M 2009 CO). The difference that is not shown in the stats is his ability to affect the running game... in the negative. The Arizona Cardinals 2010 defense gave up their longest runs on the left side and up the middle. Opposing Left Tackles were constantly able to set the edge and allow RB's the time needed to run out to the left and gain positive yards. The 2010 Cardinals allowed an average of 145.2 yards average on the ground and 4.4 yards per attempt, compared to the 2009 average of 112.8 yards per game.
Of course, these numbers and issues with the defense can not rest solely on Joey Porter, we know that there were issues with ILB, and all over the defense. But I think you'll be surprised when we discuss next weeks comparison of the tandem of Karlos Dansby and Gerald Hayes (2009) to Paris Lenon and Daryl Washington (2010).
So the question becomes, is it worth over paying for a player who will be out run by younger faster players? Or does Joey have enough left in the tank to play a Bert Berry role and through situational pass rushing to put up 6+ sacks?
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The bigger question is would Porter accept that kind of role
If he’s already said as much, just excuse this comment, but Porter wanted out of Miami b/c he was going to lose playing time to Cam Wake. And Porter’s never been a guy who was short on ego or a belief in his own abilities. I really doubt he’d accept a situational pass rush role behind a rookie or a second year guy like Schofield without rocking the boat.
by Steamin' Beamin' on Mar 10, 2011 4:28 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
We need to hear something...
Whiz said he played too many downs. What does Porter think?
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Dude's got to lower his standards
Is anyone else going to give him much of a chance? His best years are obviously behind him and his performance last year didn’t exactly reek of excellence.
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B-Train role
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by JoeCB1991 on Mar 10, 2011 4:50 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I say his leadership and fire is worth keeping him
If he restructures his contract and agrees to situational work for sacking the QB!
by Punisher3190 on Mar 10, 2011 5:01 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Bert Berry...
situational pass rush role was sensational in the super run
Absolutely
I totally think Porter still has something left to put on the field and could be better than Berry. He just needs to be used sparingly. A fired up Porter used to spell the Rookie’s would be a menace to deal with.
I hope I wasn’t too hard on Porter in the article, but he’ll definitely need to agree to a reduced role if he wants to come back.
I think agree with Punisher that his leadership would definitely be worth bringing him back for a year to mentor our new young LB corps.
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He needs to take less money, first.
Then understand what it is we want him to do. But, a pass rusher and 2nd stringer, seems like the spot to me.
Good article.
I do not think Porter is worth his salary. But, sometimes you overpay because of need. We have no LB depth and releasing him weakens an already weak LB group.
With less snaps a game and focusing him on passing down should increase his production.
Doubtful that he would want to restructure his contract...
But you never know. If he doesn’t, you gotta let him go… If he does, B-Train role.
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I'd like to see one of these done for the trio of excellence we had last season against Kurt Warner in 2009
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