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Looking At Former Cardinals Player Bryant McFadden

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Cornerback Bryant McFadden took a lot of heat here in Arizona for his coverage skills in his time playing opposite Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. He also has been criticized in Pittsburgh.

He also was the example of a coaching moment for new Arizona Cardinals defensive coordinator Ray Horton. According to the story, in practice, McFadden was cover a receiver down the field and when the ball was thrown never turned around to locate it. After being chastised for that, he said that he was told to do it that way in Arizona. Horton corrected this technique. 

Did that work to make McFadden a better cornerback in 2010?

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Not exactly. In some ways, he covered better for Arizona in 2009 than for Pittsburgh in 2010. 

As a Cardinals player in 2009, he was targeted 127 times and gave up 77 receptions, a 60.6 percent rate of completion against him. 

In 2010, he was targeted 120 times and gave up 81 receptions. That rate is 67.5 percent. 

In both cases, it is not great. Yes, he is the weaker corner opposite Ike Taylor, but he was in the same boat here opposite DRC. 

The one thing that is noticeably different is how many yards he gave up. In 2009, he gave up over 1000 yards, an average of 13.5 yards per catch. 

In 2010, he slowed much less -- 877 -- an average of 10.8 yards per reception allowed.

His tackling stats were almost identical. He had 80 solo tackles and one assist in 2009. In 2010, he had 76 solo tackles and five assists -- 81 total each season. He missed five tackles both seasons. 

I don't know if he was utilized differently in the Steelers' system, but his results were mixed under Horton. If he was down the field the same amount as with the Cardinals in coverage, he improved at defending deep passes, as noted in his yards allowed. However, he did not improve in coverage in general.

I do not wish to imply that Horton will not get improved play out of his new defensive players, but McFadden did not magically become a shutdown corner. We should not expect magic out of Horton. 

What does everyone else think?

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I think it can be argued that there’s more talent to work with between PP, DRC and Toler than with Ike, McFadden and whoever their third corner is.

by SideshowJack on Jun 26, 2011 2:51 PM MDT reply actions  

Easily

I would make that argument all day. DRC > Ike (even though DRC had an off year) and PP > McMuffin because everyone owns McMuffin. Toler is solid, people love to discount him, but he is pretty dang good.

by Tyler Nickel on Jun 26, 2011 3:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Exactly so we should expect improvement from the individual players, or at least the secondary as a whole.

by SideshowJack on Jun 26, 2011 3:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

Exactly,

I won’t be surprised if Toler possibly unseats DRC for No. 1 for the first quarter of the season.

by Cardsfan928 on Jun 26, 2011 7:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

Don't forget Rhodes and Wilson against Polamalu and Clark

Polamalu has the edge against Wilson right now, but they are both considered to be among the best at their position, and I’d put Rhodes above Clark.

We have more talent in the secondary, but their Linebackers are much better than ours along with the pass rush in Pittsburgh. The secondary should be fine this year, the pass rish is what I’m more worried about because you can’t expect DRC, Toler, and PP to cover their man forever.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

by JoeCB1991 on Jun 26, 2011 7:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

However, our line gets the slight edge, but like you mentioned a 3-4 without the backers is kind of worthless.

by Cardsfan928 on Jun 26, 2011 7:43 PM MDT reply actions  

Pitts entire front 7 is pretty solid.

I wouldn’t say the Cardinals have any edge on the D line.

by hadrarius on Jun 26, 2011 8:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

McFadden is a perfect example

Of why it is a bad idea to sign alot of FA. He came over and was a complete bust for the Cards, even tho he has played decent football w/ Pitts. The Cards gave him alot of $$$ and got next to nothing in return! Gotta build thru the draft… Trying to fix the OL in the same manner as McFadden isn’t going to work either. Its been proven over and over again.

Gotta ask yourself… Why is his old team letting him go? Usually cuz he has significant flaws that his old team always had to work extremely hard to disguise. Draft better and develop your own players. Teach them how you want them to play yourself. Trying to take a short cut and get someone elses flawed players doesn’t fix anything, it just creates more problems.

Course this would require the Cards to significantly increase the scouting dept a spend money, that doesn’t go against the salary cap and have to be spent.

You've been Stroh'd™!!!

by Strohman on Jun 27, 2011 11:45 AM MDT reply actions  

In this case

Why wouldn’t the Steelers take him back? The Cards had already paid him the guarenteed money so there was no risk for the steelers. And he probably got the majority of his contract paid in the 1st year by the Cards. So for little risk, and little money the steelers got a guy that they knew could stll help them. Thats called being prudent by most.

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by Strohman on Jun 28, 2011 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

He was far from a marquee signing

Signed to a decent contract to play decent football. He didn’t live up to it.

by tw3kr on Jun 28, 2011 2:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

Didn't live up to it.

Thats my point! How many FA ever actually do live up to the contracts they’re given? Very Few… FA in general are overpaid and underproduce! Throwing money at them is futile and a waste of money. You couldl have used the money to sign someone like Q to a new contract. Q actually did alot to make the Cards relative again, but he got snubbed so the Cards could throw money at McFadden. Whether it was a marquee signing or not is irrelevent. He was like almost all FA… He didn’t live up to the money he got!

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by Strohman on Jun 28, 2011 9:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

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