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Arizona Cardinals Positional Battles - The Chargers Aftermath

Despite getting later into the preseason there are still a few key positional battles going on inside the Cardinals. Have new starters been found, have veterans fallen back into lesser roles. See how the third preseason game against the San Diego Chargers affected the five biggest positional battles for the Cardinals entering the 2011 season.

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Right Guard -  Rex Hadnot (85%) vs  Deuce Lutui (15%)

Lutui is the incumbent here, but I think Hadnot has all but sewn up the starting job at right guard. Hadnot looked strong throughout the game against the Chargers, getting very good push in the running game and performing well in pass protection giving Kevin Kolb time and space to throw the football. He was beaten once notably on a passing play, but he recovered and allowed Kolb to step up and complete a shovel pass to Beanie Wells. Hadnot played with the starting OL into the fourth quarter, before Deuce got his shot. Deuce in a little under a quarter of action managed to not lose any ground, but had no time to gain any playing for just 10 offensive snaps.

WR - Early Doucet (100%) vs Stephen Williams (100%) vs DeMarco Sampson (65%) vs Max Komar (35%)

Four into three is the case here, and it does not work. Andre Roberts and Larry Fitzgerald have established themselves as the starters, but the battle for #3 on the depth chart is still deep, and in fact someone who is involved in the battle for the #3 WR spot will not make the roster. Early Doucet looked impressive in action against the Chargers looking good after the catch and took on some tough catches over the middle of the field. Stephen Williams looked more focused tonight. He caught both of the catchable balls thrown his way, one, from Kolb was low and he managed to get his 6-5 frame down to cradle it and then have the presence of mind to get up and run after not being touched. Neither Sampson nor Komar recorded a reception in the third preseason game, Komar's only impact came on Special Teams, but that is a big part of the back end of the roster. Komar provides both return ability and experience on the kick and punt coverage units, neither of which Sampson does. I still give the rookie the edge because he has looked far more impressive catching the ball than Komar. I have Doucet and Williams as locks for the roster with Sampson and Komar battling for the final spot. Stuckey and Isiah Williams are not going to make the roster this season.

OLB - Clark Haggans (100%) vs Joey Porter (100%) vs O'Brien Schofield (0%) vs Sam Acho (0%)

Today sealed it for me, these four are all going to see plenty of snaps on the outside in the regular season, but as we saw it today is how it is going to go into the regular season. The two veterans with the experience in the system have locked down the starting jobs over second year man Schofield and rookie Acho who will provide valuable spells for them. The unit failed to create consistent pressure yet again and it will continue to be an area of concern coming for the Cardinals and even against the 2nd team OL of the Chargers neither Acho (Who also looked a bit stiff in coverage) nor Schofield was able to get to the QB. Schofield beat his man once, but failed to turn the corner, and flashed a spin move once, but only succeeded in spinning back into traffic. This unit will continue to be fluid and continue to be a work in progress for Matt Raich and Ray Horton, maybe later in the season we see one of the younger guys emerge, but for now, the veterans are still the starters.

CB -  AJ Jefferson (100%) vs Greg Toler (65%) vs Patrick Peterson (35%)

Another strong game from second year undrafted free agent AJ Jefferson should be enough for the rise from occasional healthy scratch and practice squad guy to starting corner for AJ Jefferson. He looked confident and comfortable in the offense. He made two very good plays on the ball breaking up passes and running stride for stride with Vincent Jackson in man coverage. Greg Toler was not on the field enough today to do anything to improve his stock, but what his injury did do is open the door for fifth overall pick Patrick Peterson to stake his claim for the starting job and stake his claim he did. Peterson played confident football, he was rarely thrown at, and made a great break on the ball to make an interception on a ball thrown out of his zone and then show his ability to take it back to the house. I still think the staff are going to be hesitant to throw Peterson in to start from day one, so injury notwithstanding Toler still has the inside track to start week one, but it is only a matter of time before the man from LSU is starting.

ILB - Paris Lenon (85%) vs Stewart Bradley (15%)

Lenon, while maybe not the more talented player is the more experienced of this duo, and when we are talking about the player who is going to be making the defensive calls in the huddle experience means everything. Lenon is solid, nothing more nothing less; he made a couple of good plays, but also badly overran one too. Bradley played a few snaps with the first team, but more with the second team defensive unit, again nothing he did stood out either good or bad, but it is going to be an uphill battle for him to start early in the 2011 season. As with most positions on the defensive Bradley will see plenty of snaps in spot duty, but Lenon has all but confirmed his spot in the starting line-up for the Panthers game.

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Hard to argue with any of these assessments.

I think Bradley has the strongest chance of overtaking the guy in front of him. Probably not by week one though.

If Toler’s injury is enough to keep him from starting against Carolina I’m going to bet on Richard Marshall getting the job. Jefferson has come on much stronger than I expected, and I was actually pretty high on him to begin with. Peterson needs more time before they make him a starter. Marshay Green has played himself off the team. Mike Adams should be back as the fifth corner and more importantly a special teams player. His absence has been noticable on coverage units.

Schofield will take a lot of plays away from Porter, but I agree that Porter and Haggans will remain the starters. Acho is not going to push out Haggans. Davis may not even make the team. Obiozor has been making more noise.

I think Hadnot is holding his job. The team was ready to move on from Lutui this year. Getting him back was a benificent fluke. The line is looking better with Hadnot & Colledge than it did with Lutui and Faneca.

I’m still not convinced that the Cardinals keep only five receivers. Doucet is in. Steven Williams is in. Demarco Sampson should make it as well. Isaiah Williams is probably bound for the practice squad. Stuckey isn’t making it through final cuts. Komar is the guy on the bubble. If they keep only five he is the odd man out. Heap and Housler make receivers like Komar and Stuckey a bit redundant, which is part of why I think Sampson makes it over either of them.

No mention of safety. If Adrian Wilson is not ready to go that is a weak spot. I wonder if they will seriously consider picking up a safety off of waivers. I doubt it, but none of the back ups have struck me as quality starters. I fully expect another safety in the next draft.

by hadrarius on Aug 28, 2011 7:04 PM MDT reply actions  

Interesting point about the safety

Rich Smith on Twitter (kind of a sports insider guy) noted that the Cards have interest in Darren Sharper. He is usually dead on with some of his claims, so don’t doubt Sharper coming in. Rashad Johnson has certainly been underwhelming.

by Tyler Nickel on Aug 28, 2011 7:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sharper

That is interesting. I didn’t figure them for making a move at all. Sharper is a name I’ve put out there before as a potential replacement if A-Dub can’t go but I honestly never thought he would be considered. He is not in the same mold as Wilson whatsoever. The Saints have clearly moved on without him. Signing Sharper to a 1 year deal could turn out to be a fantastic move regardless of the situation with Wilson.

by hadrarius on Aug 28, 2011 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

I figure, the Cardinals will be looking for a veteran RB off the waivers and perhaps even any improvement on the OL (tackles or guard who can do better than Batiste, Floyd Womack). Also if the injury to Toler is serious that he loses a decent portion of the season, Cards may look for a veteran CB. In that case, it would probably make more sense for them to look at trading a player they think they are going to cut with a team rather than wait for the player to be available and hope he falls to them on the waiver wire.

The experienced players I do not think are going to make the roster and may be interesting to other teams include Matt Ware, Rashad Johnson, Stuckey, Reagan maui’a. Other decent younger players who have been on the bubble include Jim Dray, Isiah WIlliams Max Komar, W Davis (OLB).

by az_kevin on Aug 28, 2011 11:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Pork Chop has been a disappointment for the Cards. I've watched him in Cle and I'm shocked he hasn't fit. I thought he was going to be a good pick up but it's looking bad.

The Cards will definitely be looking at CB, RB, S, OLB and OL when the cuts come down. I personally don’t see any the bubble guys you’ve mentioned making the team. So it would be a good idea to shop them to fill a need. I don’t see Ware or Johnson getting cut.

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by az78true on Aug 29, 2011 12:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

While that Pick 6 by Peterson

was great, he did leave his assignment to make it.

by Cardsfan928 on Aug 28, 2011 7:26 PM MDT reply actions  

He did, I tried to make mention of that

great break on the ball to make an interception on a ball thrown out of his zone

One amendment I would make to the above it that Peterson was more than “rarely” thrown at. C couple of times I mistook the 21 of Peterson for the 31 of Marshall. He was targeted, but no more than any young CB is.

by khodder on Aug 28, 2011 7:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Of course he left his assignment.

It ended when the ball was thrown elsewhere.

by hadrarius on Aug 28, 2011 10:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Just for anyone wondering, the percentages are my current odds of the player being the starter come week one in all cases except the WR’s in which case the percentage is whether or not they will be on the roster after the final cuts.

by khodder on Aug 28, 2011 9:01 PM MDT reply actions  

I think I have seen Sampson on punt and kick coverage

Sampson sat out the game with an injury too.

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by JoeCB1991 on Aug 28, 2011 9:03 PM MDT reply actions  

But the experience factor will play in here. Komar was a large part of special teams for us in 2010 even as an UDFA. Sampson rarely if ever played ST’s in college and will have to make adjustments to his game to play there effectively in the NFL.

Komar also provides a point of difference among receivers for us, he is a smaller shiftier guy as opposed to the bigger guys in the mold of Sampson, Fitzgerald, Williams et al.

by khodder on Aug 28, 2011 9:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

My thoughts also

Throw in Housler and Heap and he becomes redundant. Which is troubling because his talent is obvious.

by Jesse Reynolds on Aug 28, 2011 9:29 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Makes sense

I am wondering how serious the injury Komar had last night on the kick return was.

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by JoeCB1991 on Aug 28, 2011 10:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Komar injury

Was it a new injury or a reoccurance of the same injury he had earlier this preseason?

by hadrarius on Aug 28, 2011 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sounded like a knee sprain

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by JoeCB1991 on Aug 29, 2011 12:20 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Difference in receivers

That is precisely why I think Komar, along with Stuckey are on the outside looking in. Steven Williams and Demarco Sampson fit one mold, similar to Fitzgerald. Roberts and Doucet another. Komar and Stuckey are more similar to Roberts and Doucet. The tight ends will be running many of the same routes that these guys would. Williams should turn into the deep threat and Sampson will be the developmental guy at the bottom of the roster.

by hadrarius on Aug 28, 2011 10:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yes, good assessments. But remember to proofread.

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by LarryCenters on Aug 28, 2011 10:12 PM MDT reply actions  

Disagree on Williams 100% at WR

Stephen Williams has always had a ton of potential, but his hands have always been suspect, plus he hasn’t improved his focus from last year to this year.

I would favor Sampson over Williams but would probably rate them about equal, say 75%, just because he’s new to the team.

Unfortunately, I like Komar, and I think he’s good on special teams. Just wish Williams had his focus and football intelligence.

by drmick3 on Aug 29, 2011 9:52 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

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