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Open Thread: Training Camp, FA Thread and Other News (See Comments And Reactions To Moves As They Happen)

Our day 9 thread was starting to get full and FA and league news has really slowed down.

Here we can post news of camp and any FA moves with our team and in the NFL.

Please rec!

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Revenge of the Birds' (ROTB) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of ROTB's editors.

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Mike Jurecki

Birdseed’ Kolb has made difference when he’s out ther, throws a rope on slants n outs.

by Jesse Reynolds on Aug 4, 2011 5:51 PM MDT reply actions  

Mike Jurecki

Birdseed’ Early Doucet wearing a #85, looks bigger in is upper body, playing in the slot, has caught everything thrown in his direction.

by Jesse Reynolds on Aug 4, 2011 5:55 PM MDT reply actions  

I love the sound of this.

"The point is, by my standards, I won fair and square."
-Bender

by az78true on Aug 4, 2011 6:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hope he stays healthy

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

by JoeCB1991 on Aug 4, 2011 7:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

Me too.

I would like to know how good he really is this season. So many injuries to the WR group last year. It was depressing.

by hadrarius on Aug 4, 2011 8:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

I like this

Early, if healthy, can be a force as a number 2 or slot guy. I loved him at LSU and had very high hopes for him on the Cards. If he stays healthy, and Roberts develops as much as some are suggesting, we could have a strong WR corps to go with a pretty solid TE group.

We all bleed Cardinal Red, but most of us don't recognize it!

"It takes no talent to give great effort"--Chris Petersen

by robloosli on Aug 5, 2011 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

Dave Razzano by Cardschatter

Good move by 49ers getting DS Donte Whitner. Wouldnt have touched Braylon Edwards. lacks “gold standard” 49ers seek.

by Jesse Reynolds on Aug 4, 2011 5:55 PM MDT reply actions  

Mike Sando, ESPN.com

Cardinals FB Anthony Sherman is a collision waiting to happen. Rookie looking good.

by Jesse Reynolds on Aug 4, 2011 5:56 PM MDT reply actions  

I'm very happy to hear this

I thought he was a good pickup in terms of what we are looking to do with in our run game.

by Jesse Reynolds on Aug 4, 2011 6:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

Mike Sando, ESPN.com

Rookie DE David Carter landing punches in brawl with OL Tom Pestock. Carter slugged Pestock in back with roundhouse. Camp can begin now.

by Jesse Reynolds on Aug 4, 2011 5:56 PM MDT reply actions  

Haha, awesome

Maybe someone who can keep up with the MMA guy.

by tw3kr on Aug 4, 2011 6:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Mike Sando, ESPN.com

Adrian Wilson and Daryn Colledge also got acquainted. No fight, but Colledge was aggressive with downfield blocking on screen.

by Jesse Reynolds on Aug 4, 2011 6:01 PM MDT reply actions  

Wilson's gotta love that

In the heat of the practice, I’m sure it pissed him off, but afterward he should appreciate Colledge playing til the whistle

"When life gives you lemons, I say f**k the lemons and bail."

by SGM on Aug 4, 2011 7:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Mike Jurecki

Birdseed’ Kolb throws TD to Jeff King, nice n throw n catch.

by Jesse Reynolds on Aug 4, 2011 6:04 PM MDT reply actions  

Darren Urban

First team O scores 3 times in 4 goal line situations. Only fail was Kolb-Beanie fumbled handoff

by Jesse Reynolds on Aug 4, 2011 6:05 PM MDT reply actions  

Darren Urban

Ryan Williams stoned on first down. Second down Williams bulls in and then lets defenders know. (And williams sweeps in easy on next play)

by Jesse Reynolds on Aug 4, 2011 6:06 PM MDT reply actions  

Rival report: Niners
Matt Williamson
Killed #49ers for free agency, but adding Whitner & Braylon moves them up to a C grade…maybe C+…Edwards could flourish

by Jesse Reynolds on Aug 4, 2011 6:07 PM MDT reply actions  

Matt Roth
CardschatterDarren Urban
I know some have asked about Roth RT @ProFootballTalk: LB/DE Matt Roth is drawing interest from N.O., Denver and Cards, per league source.
mikejureckiMike Jurecki
Re Roth 6’4 275 DE/OLB rotation guy can play on special teams. http://bit.ly/qgGTS8 @JS_Marshall: who is Matt Roth? Starter material?

by AZPhriend on Aug 4, 2011 7:30 PM MDT reply actions  

Per Rotoworld/Profootballltalk on twitter
The Saints, Broncos, and Cardinals are all showing interest in free agent OLB Matt Roth.
Roth has been adamant about not playing in a 4-3 defense, which would seem to rule out New Orleans and Denver. (Barring a change of heart, of course.) Roth would make a lot more sense in Arizona if the Cardinals hadn’t kept Joey Porter. Perhaps the Cards would reconsider Porter’s fate if they acquired Roth.

by AZPhriend on Aug 4, 2011 7:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Would love to see the Cards bring him in.

"The point is, by my standards, I won fair and square."
-Bender

by az78true on Aug 4, 2011 8:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not expecting a move until Fitz has his contract.

If Roth is signed it may not be Porter getting the heave though. May be just a fringe player like Obiozor, or if anyone of account, Haggans.

by hadrarius on Aug 4, 2011 8:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

mikejurecki Mike Jurecki
#Birdseed Rumors are Baltimore is trying to convince Malcom Floyd to sign w/ Ravens, link to story re Ravens. http://sbn.to/qPXc2p

by crisco219 on Aug 4, 2011 7:47 PM MDT reply actions  

I want a burner down the field

I don’t know much about Floyd or Cotchery. Which one is the best combination of speed and hands?

"When life gives you lemons, I say f**k the lemons and bail."

by SGM on Aug 4, 2011 7:52 PM MDT reply actions  

I doubt he'd sign with the Cards

He turned down a one-year 4mil offer from the Bears. Appears to be looking to sign with a team that he thinks will make it to the SB or retire if that doesn’t happen.

by AZPhriend on Aug 4, 2011 8:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Competition at center isn't what the Cardinals need right now.

If Olin Kreutz hadn’t put out that he was considering retirement I might be of a different opinion. Why bring him on for a short time though? Does not seem like someone who would settle for sitting on the bench.

by hadrarius on Aug 4, 2011 8:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Question for anyone who has been to the camp practices.

Someone mentioned (I think Jurecki) that in 11 on 11 the defense was running some 2 down linemen with the rest of the front seven standing up, milling around. Anyone know who the two down linemen were? I’m assuming Dan Williams and guessing Darnell Dockett, with Calais Campbell standing up.

by hadrarius on Aug 4, 2011 8:20 PM MDT reply actions  

Rival Report:
Mike Sando, ESPN.com
They did not hit like this. RT @SFCmech: @espn_nfcwest wouldda been nice to get tweets like this from Seahawks camp while you were there/blockquote>

by nimbus on Aug 4, 2011 8:28 PM MDT reply actions  

i agree--no need for another WR

Cardschatter Darren Urban
This RT @kentsomers: Cardinals won’t be despondent if they don’t sign a No. 2. They think Andre Roberts can handle it. Signing Heap helps 2

No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!

by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Aug 4, 2011 8:51 PM MDT reply actions  

we have a lot of depth at wr and Te

I’m hoping we run alot of 2 Te/2Wr sets
With King and Heap as blockers—we could run and then play action to Fitz on those 17/20 yard crosses.

No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!

by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Aug 4, 2011 8:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

mikejurecki Mike Jurecki
ok, Roberts and Sampson have caught the ball very well, Doucet looked good today, RT @CLihn: Last year, WR S… (cont)

No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!

by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Aug 4, 2011 10:04 PM MDT reply actions  

cute artical about Kolb

azcardsbuzztap Arizona Cardinals
FOX Sports Arizona >> Can’t get enough of Kolb at Cards’ camp http://buzztap.com/-V2S7XA

No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!

by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Aug 4, 2011 10:08 PM MDT reply actions  

Anyone hear about Fitzgerald Sr sayiong Larry wants to play for the Vikings?

heard it on am 620 this morning… Hopefully its just daddy trying to get son more money fodder… But I have a bad feeling that if the deal doesn’t get done before the start of regular season that it may actually hold water. I get wanting to play “at home”, but after his time here, I would hope that Phoenix would feel “like home”…

by Gildo on Aug 5, 2011 10:50 AM MDT reply actions  

me too, but....

if he doesn’t sign prior to the season, it makes me nervous. all I’m sayin’.

by Gildo on Aug 5, 2011 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

What's in Minn?

Better QB situation? Better young players? Better coaching? Better ownership?
I think Cardinals of 2011 are a pretty competitive franchise.

by Jesse Reynolds on Aug 5, 2011 12:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thats the team Fitzgerald grew up a fan as.

He was a ball boy there when Randy Moss was there.

by CARDstucknVA on Aug 5, 2011 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

It Fitz would wanna play anywhere, Vikings would be the last place

Fitz would wanna be on a SB contending team, not one that’s currently rebuilding.

by CanadianCard on Aug 5, 2011 5:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

my comment was based off of what his father siad in an interview.

not saying i agree, just saying its weird that he said it at all.

by Gildo on Aug 5, 2011 6:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Man, you beat me to it

That’s all the news I had. So, is a vet coming in to be the Cards #2 totally out of the question now?

Just a guy, because I was born that way.

by cdeveau on Aug 5, 2011 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

The only other available name is Steve Smith.

There was a rumor about him possibly coming here. I don’t know how reputable the source was. He’s coming off microfracture surgery so he would miss the first couple of weeks.

by CARDstucknVA on Aug 5, 2011 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

That really puts him back a bit

Because he will have missed out and practices as well. That might not be a pick up in the Cards best interests.

Just a guy, because I was born that way.

by cdeveau on Aug 5, 2011 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

It's looking like maybe Doucet at slot and Roberts at #2?

Doucet would make a formidable slot guy, and Roberts was finally coming on last year toward the end. The talent might actually be there. We’ll see…..

by Rob Burson on Aug 5, 2011 4:25 PM MDT reply actions  

I have a feeling that Heap/King combined will put up #2 receiver numbers...

I should say I would be shocked if it happened considering that the past several years combined of TE production probably do not equal one year of a solid #2’s… but with Heap’s ability, coupled with the sweeping changes the Cards desperately needed to make on offense, I just have a feeling that we can expect a lot more from that position.

by Gildo on Aug 5, 2011 5:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

I always felt the Cards under-utilized TE's

I agree and hope to see some action from them this year.

by Rob Burson on Aug 5, 2011 5:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

WalterFootball 2010 draft scouting report on Andre Roberts:

“Don’t ask me why Andre Roberts isn’t a shoe-in for the second round – I have no idea – he should be. Roberts possesses a lot of talent and should be a very productive receiver in a West Coast offense at the next level. Roberts is exactly what you look for as a No. 2 receiver because he’s extremely reliable, competitive and maximizes Y.A.C. Roberts was easily the best receiver at the Senior Bowl and he followed that up with a great Combine. Obviously, playing against inferior competition in college isn’t a major concern. Some team will get a steal in the third round. Roberts is my No. 5 rated receiver in the 2010 NFL Draft.”

by Rob Burson on Aug 5, 2011 5:46 PM MDT reply actions  

That's a nice read

I’m excited about for our offense, they are much improved.

by Jesse Reynolds on Aug 5, 2011 6:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

and here I thought they were crazy for picking this guy up in the 3rd...

I kinda had the same feeling when they called out Housler this year. But I guess the Cards have picked some gems in the 3rd round (ie DD) so I should maybe hold judgment until years later and pretend that I knew the whole time how the pick was going to turn out:)

by Gildo on Aug 5, 2011 6:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Taylor Mays

He musta really pissed someone off over in 49er land.

Just a guy, because I was born that way.

by cdeveau on Aug 5, 2011 10:31 PM MDT reply actions  

Adrian Wilson hurt
Cardschatter Darren Urban
Because of A Wilson injury RT @kentsomers: Cardinals re-signing S Matt Ware, pending a physical.
Kent Somers
Cardinals won’t know about Wilsons injury until tonight, maybe Sunday. Fear prob is torn muscle, hope is that he can play soon
Cardschatter Darren Urban
Whiz said S Adrian Wilson having MRI on elbow/bicep. More info Monday.

by AZPhriend on Aug 6, 2011 3:41 PM MDT reply actions  

Wilson getting hurt is bad news.

There isn’t anyone at safety that can step into a starting spot that I’m comfortable with. Johnson apparently isn’t playing at a level to secure the #3 role. Not a good thing at all.

by hadrarius on Aug 6, 2011 3:45 PM MDT reply actions  

Yes it is. I'm hoping for the best.

But as a precaution, are there any FA safeties left on the market?

Just a guy, because I was born that way.

by cdeveau on Aug 6, 2011 3:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wait, the Taylor Mays thing

Time to swing a trade.

Just a guy, because I was born that way.

by cdeveau on Aug 6, 2011 3:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

Taylor Mays is not going to replace Adrian Wilson.

I’m not opposed to picking him up but he would be at the bottom of the stack. Matt Ware is by far the best choice to bring in at this juncture. Keeping an eye on the waiver wire would be a good idea to see who crops up.

by hadrarius on Aug 6, 2011 4:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well I think it's time to see

What Rashad Johnson can do, forget Matt Ware.

by Cardsfan928 on Aug 7, 2011 4:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ware is just there for depth.

If he was anything else he would have already been with the team. He’s someone they can plug in immediately because of his familiarity with the team. When they know more about the injury they can move on from there.

by hadrarius on Aug 7, 2011 5:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

words of encouragment from the man himself

adrian_wilson24 Adrian Wilson
Cardinal Fans just be patient and believe in the impossible.. #teamwilson I will never give up on this TEAM ever!!!

by crisco219 on Aug 6, 2011 9:21 PM MDT reply actions  

Does anyone know

how overweight Dan Williams was?

by Cardsfan928 on Aug 7, 2011 11:43 PM MDT reply actions  

334 lbs.

I think they said it was less about his weight coming in, and more about the level of his conditioning.

Faith Focus Finish

by b0rd3rline on Aug 8, 2011 7:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

I know everyone except for me (on this site) hates Levi

But we can’t trade him. Even if he does suck (i disagree)—he’s still our starting left tackle. He is infinately more important than a # 2 wr, if Evens if even a #2. I like Roberts and Ducet better anyway.

No more night. I have seen the light. Let it shine on bright.
HANG HIM HIGHER!!!

by Cuckoo for Coco Puffs on Aug 9, 2011 6:22 PM MDT reply actions  

No way they trade a starting tackle for a rotational receiver anyway.

Just a Bills’ fan overestimating the value of one of their players.

by hadrarius on Aug 10, 2011 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

We know this from experience

PriscoCBS Pete Prisco
by mikejurecki
When I see Derek Anderson throw a pass, I am reminded of why a big arm isn’t the most important thing for a QB.

by crisco219 on Aug 9, 2011 8:47 PM MDT reply actions  

Sounds like Matty Boi is having a good camp

Per Rotoworld

Texans backup QB Matt Leinart has looked “outstanding” in training camp, according to the Houston Chronicle’s John McClain.
“He’s made perfect throws on deep routes, slant routes and fade routes,” said McClain. “The coaches love him.” We’ve seen glowing reports of Leinart’s camp work several times now. It looks like he could flirt with high-end QB2 value in a high-scoring offense should Matt Schaub go down with an injury.

The Texans play next monday on ESPN, so it will be interesting to see how well he really does in that game.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

by JoeCB1991 on Aug 9, 2011 10:24 PM MDT reply actions  

Leinart could be a good QB

He was cut because he wasn’t the leader this team needed. The offense did not respond well to him, nor was he that hard of a worker. Maybe getting cut and being replaced by DA has lit a fire under his ass.

by billydacardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 6:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Change of scenery might have helped him too

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

by JoeCB1991 on Aug 10, 2011 8:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

I've always thought he could be good...

truth is, his rookie season was really not that bad. It was passable for a rookie on a bad team, and had he had consistent playing time over the next few years, who knows if he would’ve improved… Obviously Warner was the better choice, and I’m not saying I’d prefer’d Leinart, just wish he would’ve been given a reasonable shot last year. Whats the worst that could’ve happened, the Cards go 5-11? Atleast we would’ve known what the Cards had at the position with Matty, now we are all just left wondering “what-if”.

by Gildo on Aug 10, 2011 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping to see him start a full season somewhere

Just so I can see if he can be a good starter or not. As a way of seeing if we made the right choice.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Phoenix Suns/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

by JoeCB1991 on Aug 10, 2011 1:42 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

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