Kevin Kolb Vs. John Skelton - A Statistical Breakdown

As for the redzone YPA thing, I’d guess that is just from how much smaller the field is over there. A lot of times the YPA seems to go down in the redzone a lot when I look up those numbers.

Enjoyed the unbiased look at ALL stats between QB’s.

am looking forward to continuing this debate until the end of time (otherwise known as the end of preseason when the coaching staff picks one or the other to be the starter).

I see no tangible difference between the 2 other than W/L record. I will not fault Kolb solely for the losses, just as I won’t credit Skelton solely for the wins as seems to be the MO for some fans.

One of the arguments that I (and others) have brought up is the difference in how well the defense played as the season went on. I think there are likely 2 points of view on this:

1. The defense played better with Skelton as the QB becasue he was able to move the ball better than Kolb was and keep the defense off the field.
2. Skelton played better with the improved defense because the defense was able to make stops and get off the field.

I subscribe to the 2nd one, and am confident had Kolb stayed healthy he would have had similar stats (possibly better) than Skelton and had a smiilar W/L record.

I have stated previously, and will do so again here, I think Kolb will show improvement with a full offseason and will win the starting role outright next season. If he is unable to stay healthy next season or is benched in favor of Skelton or someone else, then I will agree that Kolb is a bust.

I know both took about the same sacks but Skelton seemed much better at avoiding pressure.

Kolb was more consistent in games but was overall bad. Skelton was bad for about 3 quarters and then decided he can play football in the 4th. Seriously, every stat up there is just about even. This debate has gone stale for me over the season because when I look at it both QBs weren’t good enough to start so what is the freaking argument about? Let these guys duke it out next offseason to start and I just hope one of them is actually worthy of staying on our roster past next year.

I understand both sides, Skelton appeared to bring wins, Kolb the opposite. Like Tonyman said, perception is everything.
I really look forward to training camp… Maybe a 16 game season wouldn’t be such a bad idea…

I think it is pretty obvious that Kolb is going to enter training camp and all offseason work as the starting QB. But I will say the one thing that excites me about Skelton is the flashes of upside that he shows.

He we make a throw that literally three maybe four other QB’s in the NFL can make, and he will make it look easy. But then a couple of plays later he will throw the ball straight at an opposition player.

There is some serious upside to Skelton, but he needs to find that consistency soon. I am still on the same wagon I was hitched to last offseason. I don’t see anything more from Kolb than we are currently getting. He does not flash the huge upside, and he has always been the kind of QB he is now. However right now, that Kolb QB is better than what Skelton is as an overall QB right now.

I honestly don’t think our future at the QB position is on the roster. Kolb is nothing more than a league average QB, and I don’t think Skelton will ever get the consistency needed. It is going to be interesting to see if the club is going to be willing to stick with league average in Kolb and waste the prime years of a go like Fitzgerald, and whether the Club will be willing to cut their losses and take a risk on a rookie at some point in the next 24 months.

I still think Whisenhunt has to go with the player he feels gives him the better chance on winning despite stats. Right now, it seems that Kolb has the better stats, but Skelton on the other hand is younger, and more physically gifted than Kolb. I thought the stat here that played the biggest factor was directional passing. The fact that Skelton had 60% of his passes down the middle shows that he is making throws that very many QBs aren’t willing to make. Kolb seem to be throwing it to his checkdown too many times and not seeing the middle of the field. We saw alot of out routes and seeing him continously run out of the pocket to see if he can find anyone on the sidelines. Its obvious that Skelton’s throws where much more difficult to make especially under pressure. With that being said I still believe that Skelton will probably end up being the better QB and winning the job in the offseason.

That this was a new system for Kolb and that Skelton has been here for longer. Skelton played last year some and still made some of the same boneheaded mistakes that he made last year. Warner played much like Kolb did when he was first inserted in to the lineup. Once he got the system he took off. I am sure that this is what the coaching staff and FO are hoping for. Had the Defense played the first half of the season as they did the last half, we wouldnt even be having this discussion. Kolb would have had a better record. He was also the victim of some pretty poor play, Stucki fumble,Feely’s 3 missed FG’s in Seatle, poor D against Giants and Ravens with huge leads, and several dropped balls by the WRs not named Fitz. WR play was terrible by the others. Skelton for 3 qrts is aweful. They got by with it this year. Wont be able to next year.

Im sure his #s are much better with Skelton than Kolb. I know that shouldnt matter, but when you are paying him so much money it does. Plus, Fitz won the Philly and SF game by making catches only he can make and whoever is the starter next year needs to understand that even if he is covered you still throw it to him

Bartel should start.

Anyone have a PFF subscription mind adding any stats they have calculated/rated that aren’t already listed?

and that’s my point. Its not whose the best QB since both were weak. Its where do you want to invest? Do we want to hope for the playoffs with Kolb? Can he stay healthy? Can he consistently be better than average? I don’t think so. If we got a good year or two from Kolb he won’t make the long haul. So, can we make the playoffs with Skelton? How much will he improve if he’s already not that far behind Kolb? I don’t think Skelton would lose much backing up Kolb. I’m a gambler, I say play Skelton with Kolb as backup. The reverse is just as good except Skelton does not develop as quickly.

Is the stats on the Running game for each QB and their starts. The offence really opens up when we can get the ground game successful, and changes how the D is playing the QB.

Also I curious about the numbers of their drives. Ex who had the most successful drives down filed, Who had the most long drives, Who scored more on big plays.

If Arizona is really thinking about Getting Manning if he does get cut, then that tell me everything I need to know about how they feel about Kolb and his future with the team and makes this whole Kolb vs Skelton pointless.