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2012 Position by Position Grading/Recap
We come to the end of another season. This season offered highs, lows, and much more. We saw our defense grow before our very eyes, we saw our Special Teams rank as one of the best in the league yet again, and we saw our offense struggle again.
Coming into this season, we practically set ourselves up for disappointment. Sure no one would have thought that the Niners would go 13-3, and the Rams would be sitting at the bottom of the West. We thought Kevin Kolb would be our savior, and Ray Hortons defense would be dominant. The Defense came alive midway through the year, and we still don't know if Kolb is truly our savior.
Quarterback Position:
Kevin Kolb played half the season, as did Skelton. Kolb went 2-6 in his games Skelton the opposite 6-2. Kolb had 9 TD's to his 8 INT's, Skelton with his 11 TD's and 14 INT's. I myself am a Kolb supporter, but with Skelton getting a full offseason of work, he should be able to work on his accuracy. We saw a great example of this during the Seattle game. Skelton escaped the pressure and had enough time to plant his feet and throw. Instead he threw it on the run. Kolb and Skelton should battle it out this offseason, but when Whizenhunt says they will, we know he means Kolb is the starter.
Grade: C-
Runningback Position:
This year we saw Beanie Wells break 2 Franchise Records. One in the game against St. Louis, and one for the season, becoming the first Runningback in Arizona History to have 1000 yards and 10 TD's in a single season. We weren't able to evaluate our second round pick in Ricky Williams, when he suffered the knee injury in the Preseason game.
Grade: B+
Wide Receivers:
Larry Fitzgerald... What more is there to say? He had an amazing season this year with his 17.6 yards per catch, with 1400 yards. His TD total was low again this year but he came through in key moments. Early Doucet was having himself a good year until the transition from Kolb to Skelton was made. Then we had the emergence of Andre Roberts. We need our WR's to build a relationship with both QB's so that they're good no matter who is behind center.
Grade: A-
Tight End Position:
After we had the big acquisition of Todd Heap, we thought we were set. Heap missed much of the season with multiple injuries, we were forced to keep Jim Dray who was a non factor this season as well. Jeff King was our best Tight End, both receiving and blocking. He is probably the best Free Agent Acquisition Arizona has had in recent year, with the exception of Kurt Warner. Rob Housler is an interesting prospect, he had a big catch and run against Seattle but fumbled at the end of the play. He's been missed several times on open plays that would have helped Arizona and those plays will come only with time.
Grade: B
Fullback Position:
Gotta love this guy huh? Anthony Sherman plowed the way for Beanie Wells to score 10 TD's and rush for 1000 yards. In the games that Sherman went down, Wells had lesser games. Sherman will only get better and hopefully next season he won't get banged up.
Grade: A+
Offensive Line:
What is there to say? They were stellar in run blocking, but failed in pass protection. Cardidnals gave up 54 sacks this season. Many people are critical of Levi Brown but over the latter part of the season he played rather well. 2 sacks in 4 games, one was more of Skelton holding on to long, and the other was his fault by picking up the inside man, not the outside. Daryn Colledge was one of our more disappointing linemen this season. He made massive wholes in the run game, but couldn't quite hold up in pass protection.
Grade: C-
Overall: B-
Defensive End:
Calais Campbell... ' Nough said. Racking up 7 sacks, a pick, several pass deflections, and 3 blocked Field Goals. We need to lock him up long term, but we will have him for one more season, as Darren Urban reports that if they can't get a contract done, they'll use the Franchise tag on him. Darnell Docket played well as well. Not racking up many sacks, but he showed he is a dangerous player, being double teamed on many plays allowing either Rookie Lineback Sam Acho get the sack, or Calais Campbell.
Grade: A
Linebackers:
Daryl Washington, Sam Acho, O'Brien Schofield. These three guys are the future of Arizona. Daryl Washington is a beast in all aspects of the game, Acho is a sack machine, and Schofield seems to be coming around. Washington didn't have an offseason but he played lights out most of the season, and Schofield is getting a grasp of this defense. He and Acho will only get better with a full season, and an entire offseason.
Grade: B+
Cornerback:
Patrick Peterson had to learn on the job, as did AJ Jefferson. Peterson has grown in front of our eyes, getting the responsibility to cover the opposing teams main Wide Receiver, and doing a good job at it. Jefferson had an up and down season. Started off poorly, got benched, played his way back into the number 2 spot and did okay from there. Richard Marshall is a must Re-sign. He played well at FS while Kerry Rhodes was out. Having Greg Toler back in the lineup will definitely help out our Secondary.
Grade: B+
Safety:
Adrian Wilson making another Pro Bowl, Kerry Rhodes playing well while he was on the field, and a preview of Rashad Johnson. Our Safetys struggled early, giving up big plays for the first half of the season. Wilson turned the corner and has earned that Pro Bowl spot. Rhodes suffered an injury and we were able to see how Johnson has progressed. He showed he's a hard hitter and did well in coverage too.
Grade: B
Overall: B+
Kicker:
Jay Feely was not the Feely of last year. We can blame his early struggles due to the transition from Graham to Zastudil. He used Graham much of the Preseason and Graham was unexpectedly released. He played well as of late, but his misses early on are what sent us to an 8-8 record, and not 10-6 or 11-5.
Grade: C-
Punter:
Zastudil did well for us. Many fans didn't like the change from Graham to Zastudil, but Zastudil dropped 24 punts inside the 20, 5 Touchbacks, and gave up 1 TD. Graham is certainly a better punter dropping punts in the 20, but Zastudil with the better leg, and I guess that's what Arizona was looking for.
Grade: B-
Return:
Patrick Peterson tying the NFL Record 4 Punt Return TD's. Breaking the Rookie Single Season Punt Return Yards. This guy will be a great Punt Returner in the league, and may just surpass Devin Hester as the best Punt Returner in NFL history. Moving the Kickoff from the 30 to the 35, really hurt LSH. He was replaced as the KR by AJ Jefferson, and no one knows why.
Grade: A+
Blocks: 5 blocked FG attempts lead the league again this year. Calais Campbell in the middle, Patrick Peterson off the outside. Nearly blocked several Punts as well. If Schofield doesn't do well as a OLB, he's certainly a solid player on special teams.
Grade: A+
Overall: A-
Give me your grades this year. Do you agree with me or not? And yes I know this is a rather long post.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Revenge of the Birds' (ROTB) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of ROTB's editors.
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Along with Kolb
Matt Flynn was another QB I wanted last off-season. He might just be another Green Bay QB who plays well because their entire team is like the Pro Bowl roster, but who knows, he might be worth taking a look at.
But some other, more desperate team is going to offer a ton for him, so that’s probably not going to happen.
Joe Saunders: "They played a really good game, so hats off to us"
Darren Urban says the Cards would possibly take a look
But won’t be serious unless Kolb isn’t recovering.
Really?
I read him state that they wouldn’t be looking at Flynn. Of course if Kolb is permanently brain damaged or such all bets would be off.
That would be awesome
I would love to have him competing in Training Camp. He might be another Green Bay product, but he seems to be the real deal. I mean, how good can one system be that you throw 6 TD’s against a good defense like the Lions?
Joe Saunders: "They played a really good game, so hats off to us"
I'm a little confused,
because last time Whiz said there was an open competition that meant Leinart wasn’t what they were expecting.
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Yes they did,
maybe not the coaching staff, but Leinart was drafted to be the franchise QB.
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Exactly this
Kolb was brought in while Whiz was here so it is different this time around
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Rod Graves is still around,
and face it if there is a competition it only means your boy Kolb is not nearly as good as the “Kolb Watch” hype made him out to be, his body of work says he won’t contribute to any team he plays for.
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I agree Kolb isn't as good as I hoped he would be,
But I think the main reason there will be a competition is because he’s injury prone.
I don't necessarily agree
We got a good amount of wins while Skelton was filling in so I think you have to at least let them compete. Both didn’t play well enough to be named the starter.
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It is our fault and the media's fault for expecting too much from a guy going from one system to a dramatically different one during a lockout season.
I did think all along that he would need a year before we could see what he can really do though (part of why I wanted to trade for Orton at the time, I thought he could learn the offense faster). Next year will be huge for him, he has a lot to prove.
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I personally
Expected a deep playoff run, which was way too much. He was a QB coming into a different system with no off-season.
The Dallas game showed he had potential. A perfect scenario would be a Kolb, Skelton, and Flynn battle for starter.
Joe Saunders: "They played a really good game, so hats off to us"
That would be ridiculously awesome
I just can’t see it happening. Someone is going to fork cash to Flynn. Minnesota, Jacksonville, Cleveland, Redskins, and Seahawks all have need at QB. If the teams who are lower in the draft do not think they will get one I could see them dropping Kolb cash on him.
by Jesse Reynolds on Jan 6, 2012 1:05 PM MST up reply actions
Agree
With as much as we gave up for Kolb I can’t see us in the running for Flynn. He will come with a large price tag, especially since we saw what happened this last offseason in the Kolb deal.
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I expected 8-8 or 9-7 at best
And I got exactly what I expected. I knew Kolb had never been a starter for a full season, plus he was learning something completely different than the WCO.
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Here we go again...
INSOMN1ATICS Skelton for president campaign all over again……I hate to say it… but INSOMN1ATIC…. you’re almost as bad as our old boy hardhat that used to get his rocks off baggin on Leinart. Ask JoeCB about him. I’m pretty sure everyone on this site get’s that you disapprove of Kolb…. but a lot of us don’t. I support Kolb. But once again… I can be a real person and see some positives in Skelton as well. We don’t really know what he can provide this team till we have a full offseason. Once that happens and “if” he sucks, then you can bag away all you want. Till then, let it go.
Sorry folks, park's closed. Moose out front shoulda told ya.
by Ghettoboxx on Jan 2, 2012 6:57 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Kolb or no Kolb
okay, I’ll beat the drum again. Kolb has 6 years on Skelton and both are about the same overall, except that Skelton did it in basically 2 years. That’s not saying that Skelton’s play is acceptable right now but it has been progressing nicely. Better decisions and significant improvement with the short game are essential but if Skelton starts next year it will all come together and by 25 we will have twice what Kolb is now. Kolb cannot/will not match Skelton physically or in terms of poise (which I believe is the single greatest requirement for a top QB).
Kolb’s edge: maturity, decision making, gym rat.
Skelton’s edge: physical attributes, poise, youth.
Okay...
Well seeing as how there’s a need for you to take on the identity of INSOMN1ATIC and completely misconstrue what my point was. I’ll direct this at you. I never said that Skelton wasn’t a good or I should say decent QB. I was stating that people who icessently argue over the same stupid topic again and again are narrow minded and lack no subjective thinking ( I guess that includes you too right?) I mean seeing as how you want to beat that “drum” .
Anyhow, whichever QB ends up being the better one for our team I’m all for. But for you guys to crown Skelton the better QB and the starter already is ridiculous and pre-matrue. That’s fine though… don’t forget your “QB” has been in the Cardinals system longer, has played with the team longer, has had two offseasons with the team… Kolb had what, a week to acclimate? You’re points are short sighted!!!! And you’re comparison is totally skewed. Because in all fairness, you’re basing everything off of a shortened off season and your expectations are way different for Kolb than they are for Skelton. Givea fair comparison with the offseason and see what happens. Or that’s fine you can have it your way……. you can look foolish and beat your drum. I personally like to look at both sides
Sorry folks, park's closed. Moose out front shoulda told ya.
by Ghettoboxx on Jan 3, 2012 9:55 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow you wanna bash me,
But load your post up with falsehood, way to make a fool of yourself ghetto
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by INSOMAN1ATIC on Jan 3, 2012 10:15 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
I never said I want to bash you...
I was stating a fact that you continually bag on Kolb….. not only that, but you get on your soap box and bash others for being Kolb supporters. There was absolutely no “falsehood” in what I posted. Unless using large words is considered talking falsely. You point out what was false about what I’ve posted the last two posts and I’ll be happy to listen. I’m “open minded”.
If you read what I’m trying to say you’d understand that you’re overly opinionated about Kolb and the people who like him. Nothing more. I stated that I’m optimistic Kolb will be good, but don’t down play Skeltons attributes at the same time and those who like him. I can admit that I’ve done this myself in the past on here…. Soooo, I don’t know if you’re able to understand what I’m sayin because you’re not catching my drift it seems. But whatever.
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I agree
I also do not see the improvements in Skelton other than the last game of the season when he threw a 1st quarter TD. He still threw another dumb INT, missed a ton of passes and Larry made some SPECTACULAR catches to save his hide (2 of which were top five of the week). If Larry doesn’t just play out of his mind we lose to Seattle at home. It’s like that every week with Skelton. If the defense didn’t play spectacular and keep it close and/or if special teams didn’t make a play, Skelton wouldn’t be the savior some make him out to be.
by Jesse Reynolds on Jan 6, 2012 1:09 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Fitz played like superman.
Without those amazing catches on poorly thrown passes Skelton not only loses hero status he becomes the focus of failure.
Oh I get it,
You like excuses and not results.
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Any thoughts on my post by the way Inso?
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How about this....
They both stink! Haha I think we can agree on that.
by forget on Jan 3, 2012 10:52 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Just in time,
for campaign season.
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by INSOMAN1ATIC on Jan 2, 2012 10:08 PM MST up reply actions
Here is how I feel
I like both guys but I prefer Kolb. Part of it is because of what was invested in him and I want to see him succeed more because of that. Keep in mind I was against this trade before it happened and I wanted Orton, but now that he is here I will support him unless he becomes DA awful.
With Kolb, I think he is more accurate than Skelton, and a lot of his issues came from the shortened offseason and every QB who wasn’t a longtime veteran with a lot of experience was screwed with going to a new team. I feel that his accuracy will improve to being above 60% next season with improved chemistry with the guys and better knowledge of the system.
His pocket presence is an issue, but the Dallas game did give reason for optimism with him stepping up much better than he was early in the season. He is a better athlete than Skelton but he needs to find out how to use it better, he needs to figure out the right times to step up in the pocket, scramble outside the pocket to buy time, and just run forward to get some yards when nothing is open downfield. Again, the Dallas game gives some optimism here.
We can even look at Tarvaris Jackson here, he sucked hard at the start of the season, but as the games went on he improved. He never lit the world on fire, but he played better and helped lead the Seahawks to wins. I think we can see the same thing from Kolb.
As for Skelton, he is a guy who is too inconsistent. He can make a throw that makes you say wow on one play, then on his next throw he will miss a wide open pass that anyone should be able to make. But he does have better pocket presence than Kolb, and he is very clutch. He always seems to play better when it matters most and nothing ever seems to shake his confidence. The biggest problem here is that he has to learn how to get off to faster starts and keep the team from falling into huge holes that his fourth quarter play can’t get us out of.
I am in favor of a competition between them during the offseason. They do seem to get along well so the competition shouldn’t be a problem for them and hopefully this will make both of them better quarterbacks going into next season. In the end, I think we will have two good Quarterbacks which is much more than we could say in 2010 with the mess that season was.
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by JoeCB1991 on Jan 2, 2012 9:15 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
This pretty sums up my feelings on the 2 QBs
I think both ahve a lot of potential, I prefer Kolb for the same reasons you listed. I don’t believe he has been given a fair shake yet, as the system he was asked to learn this year on the fly is completely opposite of the one he spent the last 3 years learning. His progressions in the Dallas game gives me reason to think he can be succesful in the Cardinals system.
Skelton has improved, but like Joe said, his throws go from Wow to WTF on a seemingly alternating basis, and that just doesn’t work for me.
I do believe that the Defensive improvement as the season went along is a HUGE reason why Skelton was able to win some games, and I’m confident that Kolb would have been able to do the same thing had he been healthy.
Having said that, if Kolb can’t stay on the field, it’s irrelevant.
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With Kolb, his situation was pretty much the same as what the entire defense went through as well
Hopefully he can play better after improving his knowledge of the system like they did.
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Hmmm
I’d say QB play gets a D, and o-line gets a B-. The line was pretty solid given their personnel. I dot understand why they were the scapegoat thoughtout the entire season
by forget on Jan 2, 2012 10:50 PM MST via mobile reply actions
YOu shouldn`t judge players based on what is expected of them
you judge them on their performance. A teacher wouldn`t mark one paper harder then another because the former paper was written by a smarter student. Judge it all equally. Our Oline was clearly the worst part of this team
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I didn't mean I was taking that into account
I think QB play was easily the worst part of our team. Half of the sacks that the o-line gave were the QB’s fault lol. And it the QB’s put us in sooo many 3rd and longs, which allowed for opposing teams to pin their ears back and rush the passer. This o-line group was solid, they were a “B” group in terms of run blocking, and a C+ group with pass pro IMO.
by forget on Jan 3, 2012 9:51 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Reason I gave QB play the C- is because we won 8 games with their play. So I figured anything higher or lower would be to generous or to harsh.
Going off of our QB stats
YOu’d think we would have won like 4 games lol.
they came up it in the clutch though, so that’s worth something. I guess the C- is pretty spot on after all!
by forget on Jan 3, 2012 9:57 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Damn
This Kolb/Skelton debate will never end! I have my own feelings on the matter which I’ve stated a few times, and I’m just gonna leave it there. I know what I like about both guys and what I think both guys need to improve on, others might disagree, but let’s give it a rest for now…. At least until preseason.
by cgcardzfan on Jan 3, 2012 2:22 PM MST via mobile reply actions 6 recs
I have been sick of it for a while
Hopefully I don’t start to hate it as much as the Leinart debacle. I cannot stand even talking about that crap. I guess others will always have their opinions but I will not understand anyone who doesn’t think an open competition next offseason to see who is better is what we need.
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Anyone know how to find out what the completion percentages for Kolb and Skelton would be if you take away passes that were just thrown away
It seemed like a lot of Kolb’s came from passes that he just threw out of bounds and I don’t recall Skelton throwing many of those. I think Kolb’s % would be more around 60% if the throwaways were taken out.
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Why would you
selectively “take out” passes to understand a quarterback’s performance?
BTW, Skelton had a perfect passer rating if you thow out all his incompletions and interceptions.
How many fumbles did they have between them?
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Same with the number of sacks both of them too
Too damn many
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I am interesting in seeing what their completion percentage was on passes that were actually aimed towards a receiver
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I haven't looked
But I guarantee it is Kolb. He wasted a lot of throws where he did his roll out to the right and throw it incomplete / out of bounds.
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The problem with that idea
is how do you seperate a ball thrown away with good reason and one thrown away because the quarterback made a mistake on the play? The stats are what they are. There is no reason to skew them to anyone’s advantage. That’s why the coaches review all that film. They don’t depend on the stat sheet in making their appraisals. Fans generally put too much weight on statistics. They can provide a lot of information on performance. They aren’t the whole story by any stretch of the imagination.
Good point
There were plenty of plays where it was Kolbs own fault that he had to throw the ball away. At least he didn’t force it across his body down the middle of the field Favre style though when he does that.
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Favre was famous for that,
and even though he is the biggest Diva the NFL has ever had, there is no denying he was a great QB in the 90’s
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He chucked interceptions like he was giving out Candy sometimes
But you are right, no denying how great he was.
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That's a lot of A's and B's....
for an 8-8 team with a fairly easy schedule.
Unless these are second semester grades, then I would have to agree.
Im going off the whole year.
After a porous start the second half of the season really saved most of the positions from dismal scores.
I personally think that drops some defensive ratings
They were terrible in the early parts of the year.
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I think the only position that deserves an A is special teams
And maybe the d-line. I say maybe for the defense because they were TERRIBLE early in the season, so they should be dropped to like a B+ IMO.
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