NFL Rumors: Todd Haley Could Return To The Arizona Cardinals
by Jess Root on Jan 6, 2012 5:01 AM MST
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PrintAfter Todd Haley was fired as head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs, there was plenty of talk (and even more hope) that he would return to the Arizona Cardinals to run the team's offense. While many thought that it was at best a long shot (yours truly included), it might actually happen.
According to NFL sources, as reported by Kent Somers, Cardinals head coach Ken Whisenhunt is expected to speak to Haley about returning to Arizona to run the offense.
If true, this is quite interesting. There really isn't anywhere on the current staff to put him without either letting someone go or by adding to the staff. Whisenhunt is a friend of Haley, but he is also close with current offensive coordinator Mike Miller. Miller was promoted to the position before this past season.
It has been said that Miller has been doing the playcalling, but by all indications it has not been a solo job. Both Russ Grimm and Whisenhunt are in the decision making process, or rather the game planning.
One speculation brought up by our own khodder is that Haley could be brought in as the wide receivers coach and be given the title of assistant head coach (which is an extra title usually with a bump in pay grade). Russ Grimm is already an assistant head coach, but it is not unheard of to have more than one with the title. Apparently the Tennesse Titans have at least two.
Haley back as a receivers coach would be great. The young corp of receivers the team currently has in Andre Roberts, Early Doucet (unless he leaves via free agency), DeMarco Sampson and Stephen Williams could use him, especially with how he has been able to develop young receivers.
The question is how the coaching dynamic would change. Would be given the playcalling reins alone? Would he work in conjunction with Miller, Whiz and Grimm. If so, how will that go? He is known to be very abrasive and hard to work with -- even with friends like Whiz.
Todd Haley back running things -- do we really want to see it? Part of me says yes, but there is a part of me that also says no. His success coincided with Kurt Warner's time. The two mutually benefited from the other. Right now we all look back at Haley's playcalling days fondly. There is the fear that we may find out just how much of his success was Warner. After all, Warner was still here in 2009 when Haley first coached the Chiefs and the offense was still really good.
Whether this really happens is obviously still speculation and the report only says that Whiz will speak with him. Haley may not be interested at this point. He surely wants to be a head coach. He may wait and see, in which case may have him missing out on his return.
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Adam Shefter just tweeted
“St. Louis Rams received permission to interview Cardinals defensive coordinator Ray Horton for their head coaching job today.” This would be a big loss for the organization because one his scheme is showing signs of life and 2 if someone else is brought in it will be in my opinion another year much like the one that just ended
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by DaCards on Jan 6, 2012 5:17 AM MST via mobile reply actions
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Finish what you started Ray. Then you can move on. Selfish much?
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by hevchv on Jan 6, 2012 6:16 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
He wont get the job.
Nooooo chance!
by forget on Jan 6, 2012 8:56 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
This would far out way losing Keim. No we can't lose Ray WTF? Kroenke is a shroud bass turd (can I say that) trying to pilfer from within the division.
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Guys
This is because they have to meet the “Rooney Rule” which means that every team with a Head Coaching vacancy has to interview at least one minority for the position. Horton will get his in due time if he keeps progressing the way he did this year, but this will be a minimum of a couple years out.
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Yes bring him back. Look how melancholia our offense has been from top 5 to bottom 10 with out him
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by DaCards on Jan 6, 2012 5:19 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Yes, please.
Sure, Warner had a huge part in making the 2008 offense successful. But in my memory, the play calling was much better that year than in 2009 (even though that was a successful year too), and it’s hard to imagine that Haley didn’t play a part in building up what was a very good offense even beyond Warner.
Honestly, the offense this year has not been good. Not once did this team score 30 points in a single game. Any offense with Larry Fitzgerald in it deserves better than that. Sure, there are plenty of other possible contributing reasons for the offensive struggles—offensive tackles, receivers not named Larry—but the fact is, the offense hasn’t been getting it done with Mike Miller calling the shots.
Wow ... it looks like I may have made a blunder. I thought he'd have more opportunities but here I am an inch away from having my foot in my mouth.
"The point is, by my standards, I won fair and square."
-Bender
Not that he doesn’t have more options, but if you’re not gonna be a HC, you might as well go where you can be most effective. This would be a great move for both parties and maybe he could find our next Steve Breaston.
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by hevchv on Jan 6, 2012 8:30 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
No Thank You
He’s abrasive and disruptive, not something we need. You didn’t see any tears when he was fired as HC. What did he do to develop Cassel? Nothing, he regressed and the is the last thing we need with our QB’s. Maybe as a WR coach only. I think he hitched a ride on Warner’s coat tails and got a HC job, classic Peter Principle case.
I would disagree
Do you guys really think Haley got a fair shake in KC??? The guy was a season removed from a coin flip to win COACH OF THE YEAR when the Chiefs won the division last year. He loses his best player by a long shot(Jamal Charles) who was the center of that offense and then his QB went down. He got screwed, bring him back, Lord knows that Miller or Grimm cant do it and we are at our best when Whiz can concentrate on being a HC.
Yes to Haley if...
only if Haley and Warner comes as a package deal. If Haley can lure Kurt from retirement, then I’m okay with Haley returning. :)
Kurt Warner being a good player does not necessarily equate to him becoming a good coach.
The man has no interest in doing it anyway.
Bring him back!
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someone wrote that they saw a tweet that one of the coaches was let go. Anyone got anything on this?
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by hevchv on Jan 6, 2012 10:18 AM MST via mobile reply actions
I saw on SBNAZ that Mike Miller could replace Chris Miller as the QB coach if Haley comes back
I guess that is what you mean
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I think someone posted a similar stat to this but Miller called the 2nd most pass attempts (ahead of Brady, Manning, Rivers, Brees) in the last 4 weeks Skelton started (weeks 14-17). That wouldnt be bad…if it was Warner taking snaps back there and we had a decent pass blocking OT.
I don't put all that on Miller
Whiz is very involved in playcalling
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Regardless, there are mitigating factors
Consider our opponents. San Fran, Cincinnati, and the Seahawks are all superb defenses when it comes to defending the run. Add to that a banged-up, generally ineffective Beanie, and I wonder what kind of gameplan we would have come up with that saw us going 3-1 in that span?
It worked, didn’t it?
I thought Whiz stopped doing that and decided to hand over play calling duties?
We won but Im not sure it “worked” through the first 3 quarters of any game. I understand yea, those are good run Ds but we actually passed it the fewest times against SF (28) and the most against the BROWNS (46), the 31st run D. Also, who is the Patriots RB? They trailed big in their last 4 games yet they can run it more than the Cards, good teams/play calling makes it work.
Not sure about Miller, dont mind if he stays but Haley seems to be a better option
by hellojellojw on Jan 7, 2012 12:04 PM MST up reply actions
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