Kevin Kolb Not Bothered By Peyton Manning Rumors, Plans To Be A Cardinal 'For A Long Time'
by Tyler Nickel on Feb 14, 2012 7:01 AM MST
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Much speculation has been made as to where Peyton Manning will land once he is inevitably released by the Indianapolis Colts. Among his short list of suitors, the Arizona Cardinals have appeared to show interest according to multiple reports. In order for the Cardinals to be able to afford Manning (if they truly do plan on making a run at him, that is), they would need to release their current starting quarterback, Kevin Kolb.
The team paid a hefty price to acquire Kolb before the 2011 season began and for all we know, he could already be on the brink of having to find a new home. But as he tells the Arizona Republic's Kent Somers, he is planning on being an Arizona Cardinal by the time training camp rolls around.
Kolb recently spoke with Somers and stated that he has heard about the rumors connecting Manning to Arizona, but that he is not too worried about them, either.
"I just try to keep my mind clear and do what I can on my end. I plan on having a great year and being a Cardinal for a long time," said Kolb.
Kolb certainly did not show the Cardinals and their fans what they were expecting to see out of the guy they gave up a Pro Bowl cornerback and a 2nd round pick to obtain. He only appeared in nine games last season due to a medley of injuries, including turf toe and a concussion. During his nine starts, Kolb threw for almost 2,000 yards and nine touchdowns, but he also through eight interceptions and completed just under 58% of his passes.
The team's brass obviously has not made a statement on the subject, mainly because Manning is still technically under contract with Indy. But if you were to ask head coach Ken Whisenhunt what he thinks of the situation, he would more than likely tell you that he plans to have Kolb back next season, working under newly promoted quarterbacks coach, John McNulty.
Kolb would tell you the same thing.
"Every indication on my end shows me that I'll be there," he told Somers.
We'll see if that is true or not in due time.
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Was not on board when the team first brought Kolb in
and was on team Skelton all year. But Ill be damned if Kolb isnt growing on me. Thats exactly what I would want to hear out of my teammate if he was going through the same thing as Kolb
by Redbird Nation #1 on Feb 14, 2012 9:17 AM MST reply actions
I was and still am not on the Kolb wreck.
I’d still rather have Skelton at QB and give him another weapon and some improvement on the Oline. He’s not easy to take down and IMO has good pocket presence. Needs more coaching though.
A lot spent on Kolb, but he was a QB of a system, just not our system. Give him a chance to compete, but what if he loses out to Skelton? A lot given up on a b/u QB.
by RamsFan1979 on Feb 15, 2012 9:04 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Skelton was a project,
from the very beginning and has only gotten better with more reps.
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by INSOMAN1ATIC on Feb 15, 2012 10:05 PM MST up reply actions
Win now mode.
What Peyton Manning will we see? He would be learning his first new system in years. He is coming off a potential career ending surgery. Both Kolb and Skelton will have another year AND a full offseason in the system. But then again Peyton is Peyton. I’m torn. Go Cards.
When life gives you lemons... Bag them up and sell them. Fruit can be expensive these days.
payton could adapt and so could our system if....
is arm is not a wet noodle
He's not flashing some stupid... whatever that was
Must have seen the mockery DA invited on the boards.
This picture reminds me a little of the famous DA picture which I beleive was taken in the same Cardinals' entrance tunnel
Foreshadowing Kolb following in DA’s demise? I hope not.
Seriously, Kolb has always said the right things but this adds even more pressure. Imagine if Cards pass on Manning, Manning plays well in Miama or somewhere else, and Kolb does not play well here.
by Drullin'OverDaCards on Feb 14, 2012 11:08 AM MST reply actions
You are tempting me to post it
….. Nah, I’ll leave it alone for now.
Click on the Swagtangibles link in my sig though.
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I am down to just a brief gag response when I think of the pic now
Amazing how the mind can suppress painful memories.
by Drullin'OverDaCards on Feb 14, 2012 1:25 PM MST up reply actions
There is one of him stretching on the field before a game that makes me laugh for some reason.
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Honestly, don't think it matters much how Manning does
If we go with Kolb and Skelton, and they both fail, the current regime is in big trouble. Conversely, if either does well, the current regime is fine. In either case it won’t really matter how Manning is doing elsewhere.
by CardsFan1976 on Feb 14, 2012 2:03 PM MST up reply actions
Chasing a dream...
wake up. We’ve got two solid QBs one of which should have no trouble leading this team to the playoffs. Who knows, maybe the draft will drop a bargin in our lap for a third.
by MooseTheDog on Feb 14, 2012 2:03 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Last year
I would not call our QB play “solid”. It was definitely below average at the very best.
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Kolb was average
Most of his stats fell in the 15-20 ranking range. Skelton below so. But Moose technically didn’t say we had solid QB play last year, he said we had solid QBs, which I agree with based on reasonable expectations of them being able to improve with a full offseason and more time in the offense.
by CardsFan1976 on Feb 14, 2012 2:11 PM MST up reply actions
We will have to see how they improve
But as of now I would not call them solid. If they play better into training camp and opening the season, then I will change my mind. To me, they both played like a backup QB last year.
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The oline played like backups as well.
by Redbird Nation #1 on Feb 14, 2012 2:44 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Mostly the tackles
But yes
"If Gortat pulls off a real Dream Shake in-game this year I will shave my head.
Mark my words." Piotr Szczesniak 12/12/11 2:12 PM
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I see both of them being a lot better next year
Kolb has shown flashes, he will be much better with a full offseason. Same with Skelton, his issues are mostly from inexperience and although he is inconsistent as hell with some refining he can be solid.
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We'll see
I am hoping for the best haha. All I know is last years QB play does not cut it and I do not view either QB we have as solid at this current point in time.
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+1
I agree. I think Kolb will be better this next season. Everything is about timing with your receivers. That was the key to Warner’s success: quick release on a well-timed route. A full offseason will help Kolb with the timing. He likely won’t be awesome this season, but he’ll be decent and serviceable.
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if by average, you mean horrible
than i agree! QB rating aside (i mean seriously, Kolb had a better rating than Andy Dalton. Using QB rating clearly isn’t the best way to evaluate guys) his completion pct was horrendous, he took 30 sacks in 9 games (one game he only played one series so he basically played 8 games), and he fumbled the ball 8 times in 9 games! Not to mention he routinely skipped passes to wide open guys. The guy couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn!
by forget on Feb 14, 2012 3:02 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
which OL are you thinking?
i think we need to upgrade our OL, but you do that through the draft, not FA. Besides that, we could use another WR, an OLB, and maybe another corner. Most of all, we could us a former MVP QB! With Manning, we would be legit contenders in the NFC, without him, we’re just fighting for a wild card spot, maybe a division title. Our QB play right now is terrible, we wouldn’t be able to do damage in the playoffs with the two clowns we have.
Both starting OT
The draft is too much of a crap shoot to count on getting a starting caliber tackle with any certainty. I do think we should aim for acquiring one there but also through free agency.
you have a much better chance in the draft
teams don’t let good tackles go.
by forget on Feb 14, 2012 4:54 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
We should acquire an OG via FA
and OT & OG thru the draft. We need to find some help for Levi. He played a little better as the seaon wore on, so I’d give him a chance to lose the starting job. IF by chance one of the top 4 OT’s fell to us, bingo. Levi, at a reduced rate, could slide to the right side if needed. Fix the Oline and you help the QB & RB.
Upgrade The Oline
I’m not sure why everyone thinks Manning is a Cardinals sure thing to the Super Bowl….. He only has one ring with the Colts in over 14 years. Peyton is an awesome QB but he only has a few good years or so left even if he does come back healthy. It would also most likely take him a year or so to get comfortable with the Cardinals system or even the players alone. The Cardinals are known to bring in good players and then let them go because of pay. I honestly think they need to stay with Kolb for at least another year. Kolb only played in five games in his 3 year career with the Eagles because he was the backup for McNabb and in those first two games Kolb became the first quarterback in NFL history to throw for more than 300 yards in each of his first two career starts. He was also named the NFC Offensive Player of the Week. Kolb has one heck of an arm and with a full off season with OTA’s, mini camps and especially learning the Cardinals playbook….. He will be a total different QB on the field. With our OL the way it is it wont matter who you bring in at QB……….. They will all be kissing the dirt
The team
should stick with Kolb or Skelton. The money and time invested in Kolb will pay off next year. The Cardinals are not going to pay for two new QBs over two years. Kolb needs the full off-season and an upgrade at the OT spot and he will be just fine. I don’t understand why everyone is giving up on Kolb and think Manning is the next coming of a QB to lead the team. This team needs a long term investment in a QB and they won’t get it with Manning. Kolb or Skelton is better option to keep the team going for the next 10 years.
It's good Kolb plans to be a Cardinal,
for a longtime. Who doesn’t want an overpaid fragile backup as their starting signal caller?
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Fragile
Ray Lewis hasn’t missed a game since 2007 until this year. He missed four games due to Turf Toe……….. I guess the Ravens should have let him go because he must be fragile. The Packers also should have let Aaron Rogers go because of his concussion. The list goes on and just because you have injuries doesn’t make you a bad player. I’m surprised Kolb got through the season with only a couple of injuries. The Cardinals need to address the OL in a major way.
but when you repeatedly get injured...
it becomes a problem
The only reason it is brought up
Is because he has been knocked out of games on multiple occasions in his short playing career. Most notably, repeated concussions and those are no joking mater.
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Ray Lewis,
so you wanna compare someone who is at the top of pecking order when it comes to time in the league with Kolb. News flash Kolb only made it half of the season, and the OL needs to be addressed but not in a “major” way.
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by INSOMAN1ATIC on Feb 14, 2012 9:09 PM MST up reply actions
It absolutely needs to be addressed in a "major way"
The Cardinals need an upgrade at every position on the offensive line. IMO Colledge and Sendlein are the two best offensive linemen on the roster. They would both be considered below average players for starters in the nfl. Our Oline absolutely needs to be addressed in a major way
by CardsDefense on Feb 14, 2012 10:08 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Nah,
the line actually played rather well on the back quarter of the season. Levi Brown holds the honor of being both the BEST and WORST left tackle in the league depending on how you wanna slice stats.
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by INSOMAN1ATIC on Feb 15, 2012 10:01 PM MST up reply actions
This is a virus
The team isn’t going to get any better by continuous speculation and ridicule over a position where a player has yet to get a true chance (about 99% of QBs take 2-3 years on a team to truly be comfortable) while we passively scrutinize continuous weak spots on the team (O-line, LBs until maybe late last year) Lets start supporting Kolb and make him feel welcome as a leader instead of making him feel like his job is one pass away from being taken from him.
He has confidence that's for sure.
Even if we do bring in Manning I think he’ll take the pay-cut to learn behind Manning. At 27 he has upside but that needs to be shown soon.
I doubt he would take a pay cut
Otherwise he would probably still be in Philly. He repeatedly said that he wanted a shot at starting somewhere. Sitting on the bench for 2-3 more years is not something that he would be willing to do.
by Tyler Nickel on Feb 14, 2012 7:17 PM MST up reply actions
Kolb's a team player, and as teams saw last season he's got the injury bug. I don't think teams will take a risk at giving him a starting Role anywhere other than Cleveland.
Kolb would take the pay-cut as long as he were to get another shot in 2 years. With both Skelton and Kolb sitting behind Manning, it should make for a much more interesting QB Competition.
Nor,
would the Cardinals pay his salary to sit behind someone, Bartel and Skelton would be the guys sittting behind Manning, if he were to land here.
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I would like to see Kolb bulk up to avoid some of the injuries.
Kolb and Bartel are the same height, but Kolb is 218 and Bartel is 230 according to ESPN. I’d like to see Kolb get above 225.
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Warner
I don’t believe anyone is comparing Kolb to Warner but If I remember right Warner was horrific in 2005 and part of 2006. In 2005 he was replaced by McCown and then in 2006 he was replaced by Leinart. O’h by the way in 2005 Warner injured his groin in the 4th week and then partially tore his MCL in week 15 which ended his season. Warner must have been accident prone………… Warner also stated that it took him a good year to get to know the Cardinals system before everything clicked. It’s funny because now everyone thinks Kolb is a wash when he came in two weeks before the season started knowing absolutely nothing…… No Off-Season…….No OTA’s……….No Mini-Camps……..No Nothing. Kolb may be injury prone and he also may be a wash but I believe he deserves a full year in the Cardinals system before throwing him to the dogs. What if he is better than we think? We will never know unless we give him the chance.
by azsportfan on Feb 15, 2012 6:30 AM MST reply actions 5 recs
+1
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Warner,
was also decorated, and happened to be the signal caller for one of the most prolific offenses in the NFL. Warner was also never like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, he would have a handful of games with an INT count of 3 or more. Kolb’s problem is his fragility, what good would Peyton Manning have been for the Colts if he routinely missed half of the season?
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by INSOMAN1ATIC on Feb 15, 2012 10:04 PM MST up reply actions
You forgot the thumb injury that sent Kurt packing to AZ. Rec'd.
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-Bender
Brady & Manning
Brady & Manning would have routinely missed half the seasons if they had an OL that was playing like the Cardinals did in the first half of the season. Brady’s biggest weakness is pressure as is with most QB’s. It’s hard to be great when your running for your life……………….
I call shenanigans,
Big Ben does great, but he doesn’t run he just breaks the should have been sack.
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