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NFL Draft 2012: Final Portion Of Our Questions With Draft Guru Seth Cox

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As I mentioned in the first post, Seth gave us such great answers to the six questions that I asked him that I had to break these posts up. Yesterday, I posted some questions addressing a possible dark horse pick at #13 for the Arizona Cardinals and some sleepers that they could possibly target in later rounds.

After the jump, I have put up the final two questions from my Q&A with Seth. As always, feel free to respond to the questions and answers yourself in the comments section.

1. How do you grade some of the Combine superstars that either don't have a lot of film on them or are coming out of odd college systems?

A guy like Dontari Poe gets the Combine Superstar tag unfairly sometimes. What happens in these processes is you get guys that come out of nowhere and make a huge impression and people either start salivating or calling them out.

You can use this Combine to show one of each. Poe had an amazing combine; I've even heard some scouts say it was the best Combine they have ever seen.

What this does is automatically boost a low round 1, early round 2 grade into a top 12 pick grade. With Poe, it is warranted, at least to me.

Poe played for a bad Memphis team and put up similar numbers to highly ranked prospect Haloti Ngata at the Combine. That has a lot of scouts wondering if he was held back because of the lack of talent around him.

I think Poe is the prototypical 3-4 nose tackle that can get into the Ngata range, but I also think his stock at 9-11 is a little absurd.

He is a top 25 prospect, but I think somewhere in the 18-25 range would be more appropriate.

When you grade him from the film, he graded out, for me at least, in the top 40 after the season.

After his workouts and other prospects falling down in the grading, (hello Vontaze Burfict), he moved to the top 25 for me.

Then you have a guy like Stephen Hill, who has no film to back up the talk of him being a first round pick, but just blew people away at the Combine and elevated his stock considerably.

Hill was almost graded out on a consistent basis as a third round project WR. He is raw in his route running, played in the triple option system, which limited the different routes he ran at different levels of the field.

So why all of a sudden are we talking about Hill being an option at 19, 22, 25, 26 and so on? Because of that P word... Potential.

Hill has un-teachable speed and hands, so if all he lacks is the ability to run routes then teams, especially teams being only a player or two away, believe that they can bring him in, let him run outside the numbers, straight down the field, and teach him the nuances of being an NFL wide receiver as time goes on.

It was the same thought process of why Vernon Davis went sixth overall. When a guy has that much going for him physically, things you can't teach, you are willing to "waste" a high pick and wait for him to develop. Davis took three years to be anything more than an average TE in the league, but it worked out ok.

On the other side, you have guys like Vernon Gholston, who you think can make the transition to OLB, without having any film to back that up, but his measurables are so off the charts, you take the chance. What happens? You miss on guys that have actually done it on film and end up with someone that can't get on the field.

After all of that long windedness here is an answer for you. Tape is more important, a good scout told me that it is 90% of how you evaluate talent, but sometimes you get blinded by the flash of those Combine numbers and forget that there wasn't exactly much substance to back it up.

2. Finally, who do you see as being the pick for the Cardinals at #13? Why?

The Cardinals are essentially keying in on three players from what I gather: Cordy Glenn, David DeCastro and Michael Floyd.

With the need for offensive linemen throughout the league and picking down at 13, you have to wonder if Glenn and DeCastro make it that far. Most mocks have both Floyd and DeCastro gone, so I am going to say:

With the 13th selection in the 2012 NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals Select... Cordy Glenn, offensive tackle, Georgia.

Glenn is a Russ Grimm type of offensive lineman. He is a big mauler, who moves well in space and can dominate at the point of attack.

I have a bad feeling that the Cardinals may try and play Glenn at left tackle, even though he projects to be a much better right tackle. He and Levi may be similar in abilities against the speed rush off the edge.

I think if the Cardinals do draft Glenn, they need to plug him in at RT and leave Levi over at left tackle where he played markedly better the last eight games of last season.

With a lineup of Brown, Colledge, Sendlein, Snyder and Glenn from left to right, I think you can see a dominate, run first offensive line, that can maul at the point of attack and really lean on their two running backs in Beanie Wells and Ryan Williams.

If the Cardinals do utilize the running game to open up the passing game, I think you can see the QB play, and that is another discussion for another day, improve to more than passable and be good enough to win games.

What are your thoughts on these two questions? How would you evaluate players like Poe or Hill? Would you be satisfied if the Cardinals selected Cordy Glenn with the 13th overall pick?

Tell us what you think in the comments section. To check out more of Seth's draft expertise, check out his website, The Sports Headquarters.

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